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13-02-2003, 05:16 PM
Ok then,
After going to a lan two weeks ago i have found a problem, i get board quickly!!! it was that bad that in the morning josh & myself went for a 2 hour hike to lake Galere and back (mind spelling if it is ****). so it puts a slight chalange to all who come, i like to call it "Keep Fletcher enjoing himself or the lan will finish" in other words, you all have to keep me 'Not Bored' or else every one leaves. now in my experences i have never seen this happen before but i beleive that it just could work. btw i don't leach.

So we will need:
A pa system for music
1 File server
1 Game server (the way i see it there should only be one server running at a time soez every one is in it)
1 mp3 playing machine (I lov Moozic)
1 DHCP server
and as many switches as possable.

Now if anyone has any of these thing i would love you to say so.
because i cant be **** reading email, i will just ask u to reply in this thread or talk to me at school. i haven't seen the princple as of yet and so dates arn't certain. and if you see that someone has said they have one of these and you do as well tell us anyway, i want to get the bet bits possable.
:)

13-02-2003, 06:33 PM
erm... a PA system + mp3 machine simply wouldn't work. your @ a LAN. peoples take computers to LANS. computers have Mp3's. Peoples use Headphone / speakers to listen to those.

there is no way peoples would concur about what music is going to be played. + loud music = no good for most gaming. so if u want to listen to music, use your head phones.

once again. the problem with havn't 1 game server is. 1. if poeple dont like the game. and 2. if people cant RUN the game.

ps. as if thiry people are going to try to keep 1 person occuiped, just so the lan can continue.

13-02-2003, 06:37 PM
rofl gogo fletch great fuckin idea
half party half lan
should be good as
o yeh btw i have none of that shit :P
DJ wiz could help eif the music ;)
-smurf

13-02-2003, 06:44 PM
Damo, he's trying to make it more like BDI by the sounds of it as we had music playing in the background...

It's not too bad of an idea, but should only be played fairly quietly so it can't be heard with headphones on...

Also, 1 game server is not going to be enough. Everybody doesn't like all games. We should just do the usual 'put up a few game servers and play what you want'.

A fileserver wouldn't be very usful...it's best to just let people leech off each other...unless the fileserver is going to contain a few games and patches, thats about all its useful for.

DHCP will be needed for sure. :)

I still don't know if the music idea will be that good...it probably won't work out the way you expect (at BDI), so it may not be worth the trouble....unless DJ Wiz or somebody else is happy to do it all..

Oh yeah, and the keep fletch happy idea won't work coz you play shit games :P

15-02-2003, 02:29 AM
u know there is one house where u will find all of the above...

15-02-2003, 02:33 AM
Hey can we molest the sheep this time ???

By the way what the best generator to bring ?

15-02-2003, 01:52 PM
lol BlackLord. yes. i'm sure they wont mind if sex thier sheep

ps. i'm not going to go if there is a chance i'll get kicked out

18-02-2003, 08:07 PM
erm... a PA system + mp3 machine simply wouldn't work. your @ a LAN. peoples take computers to LANS. computers have Mp3's. Peoples use Headphone / speakers to listen to those.

there is no way peoples would concur about what music is going to be played. + loud music = no good for most gaming. so if u want to listen to music, use your head phones.

once again. the problem with havn't 1 game server is. 1. if poeple dont like the game. and 2. if people cant RUN the game.

ps. as if thiry people are going to try to keep 1 person occuiped, just so the lan can continue.

1. youre a fuckhead

pa + mp3 worked fine at BDI and im all for it as long as it isnt jamiriqai and it suits the mood of the game

2. youre a fuckhead

the music doesnt have to be loud and it adds atmosphere, if people dont want a lan with music they can goto a morb lan. the next sentance is what if their machine cant run the games... wow, then they aint gonna be able to run winamp at the same time as anything, so if they want music while they game, they're fucked. as i said im all for general ambience music, as long as it is only as background music (ie CAN be heard over headphones but can also be talked over) and as long as it isnt on shit speakers, it has to sound good!

3. youre a fuckhead

you have one server, everyone plays the same game
then we dont get fuckheads like you playing one game with 3 other people and taking 4 ppl out of the main game, if not many people can play a game then chances are the game wont last very long at all. there is a perfectly good reason for running ONE server, and it has been demonstrated at the hamilton lans (time and time again i believe, even if ive only been to one), every game gets a fair go from everyone even if they dont like it, everyone plays the official game timetabled, and if they dont like it so much they wont play, they dont play anything. not playing anything means that the players who dont like it but still play it wont drop out in favour of something like dod or cs just cos they feel like it. if u get enough ppl not playing the game will change obviously, but there is therefore an incentive to play a game regardless of wether u like it or not.

the people who dont like that game will surely have their favourites that others wont like as much, but they will get a fair go of it as well, and hence it all works out, if u dont like ut2003 (hell i dont) and u have to play it for 30 mins or an hour, u prolly will anyway, causing much glee to the people who love to play it and who have never seen so many people in one game before, then when it comes the turn of something else, say moh spearhead, those people might not like it and still u might not either, and everyone will play it anyway, and the people who do like it will rejoice in for once having a full game of it, the entire room is in the same game and it makes it so much more fun. then bam its dod time (if it exists) and ur in ur prime and uve got a 30-40 person game of dod and voila ur loving it, heaps of ppl hate it but they play because u played their games, doesnt matter if they dont like it they extend the same curtousy to u as u did to them.

everyone plays what they want, everyone plays what they dont want to play as much, everyone tries something they wouldnt normally, people play games for an hour theyve never played for more than 10 minutes and find they like it, and u get people like blacklord who go and goto sleep cos "mohaa is gay" while everyone else has the time of their lives.

4. your a fuckhead

why... well i dunno, it's his lan, he should be able to say that if he gets bored he goes home and hence the lan is over. he wont get bored if everyone is playing the same games together.


the same game system is something i've never seen pulled off in warrnambool in lans other than kinkos, and even then only to smaller extents, but thsoe lans are the ones we remember best, and i recall the hamilton lan i attended as one of the best ive ever been to purely because everyone played the same game, 30ppl c&c renegade (when it got released), 30 ppl mohaa, 30 ppl dod, and so on and so forth

basically the room changes from a group of people all doing their own things to one big entity who all play the same thing and even in games they usually wouldnt play all have fun - remembering, if u dont like a game and dont play it much/at all and u play it at such a lan, u wont be the only n00b, so you WILL have someone to play at your level - it's all good.

I for one am going to be quite looking forward to big games of - MOHAA:Spearhead, OP Flash Resistance, even if the need arises, dod - and keep the leeching until the early hours of the morning once the games are over - any leeching before should be for gaming purposes only ie to get the game or the crack or the updates - there should also be a grace period for this where everyone concentrates on getting their own or someone elses machine up to the state where they can play the game scheduled next, so that everyone can get in and go at once rather than a half assed game for 30 mins while ppl struggle to find updates etc cos the people that should be helping them are ignoring them - and then when they come in they have no chance cos the rest of the players have a half hour head start in everything from scores to weapons to knowing the map in teh case of some n00bs.

Basically, if this is your outlook on lans mr delta-force, don't come - for it would appear that you will be sitting aside whining and bitching that your favourite game isnt playing, or u dont like the music because u like to feel like ur in ur own home on the internet playing the games - ur not at home - voices, music, the smell (as bad as it is) and the social aspect of a lan are all part of what makes a good lan a good lan.

w3rd, mofukka!

18-02-2003, 09:12 PM
Are lans not ment to be enjoyable. why would you play a game that you dont enjoy. that takes the whole fun out of it
Now days i would garrentue that someone only likes ONE game, and no one else @ at a decent size LAN. therefore there is always someone to play with.....

inresponse to the comments
=>1. ok. i understand it worked @ BDI. erm. i didn't go to BDI. so how am i ment to know.... + its already been siad

as long as it isnt jamiriqai and it suits the mood of the game
jamiriqai rox, so stfu
which leads to the next point

=>3. u REALLY think that's going to happen? AHAH. it just doesn't work that way. it has been tried and tried again. some poeple might not like a game because they arn't as good as others, or it doesn't interest them. fair eough... poeple go to a lan to play the games that they like. with other people that like the same game.
it is exremly fustration when you get people playing a game, that dont really want to and who are just fucking around...it's pointless for them to be in there....

all of this is just something that cannot be controled. if people dont with to play something, they dont. if they do. they do. i mean really.
oh, btw, what has me and dod got to do with it. i play just about every recent game and decide if i like it, then i play it, i like dod. i play dod. The only game that i WILL NOT play is BF1942., i'm sure there is game that you wont play!

=>4. for one. he is the main person (along with others, i know) that, when bored, will sit there and play single player games... and no. not to get a "feel" for it. how can this possibly be "social" i mean really. i'm not the only one who thinks exaclty this way... so why u having a crack @ me for??


think about it. is it REALLY feesable to host a 30 person lan, at a public venu. and when one of the organisers get bored everyone goes home?. what if sks got bored @ morb. would he send everyone home... no... (i hope not ;)) that would be utterly selfish at a paying event, if it happend. i would be asking for my money back. i want to pay for what i get.


Basically, if this is your outlook on lans mr silencer-its never going to happen. The perfect lan according to you will never happen, 'everybody helping everybody', 'no computers crashing', 'everybody playing the same games, at the same time, all having fun' - this is something for a 8 person lan. not 30.

Cheers,
DeltA,

19-02-2003, 12:10 AM
Basically, if this is your outlook on lans mr silencer-its never going to happen. The perfect lan according to you will never happen, 'everybody helping everybody', 'no computers crashing', 'everybody playing the same games, at the same time, all having fun' - this is something for a 8 person lan. not 30.


hey dickhead, it happens regularly in hamilton, and works fine.

-disregard insult as it was intended for initial effect :P :D or not if you like being insulted heh.

the jamiriqai comment was regarding the music at BDI which was largely jamiriqai which many people objected to - I didn't mind it myself but they are a band you either love or hate.

"poeple go to a lan to play the games that they like. with other people that like the same game.
it is exremly fustration when you get people playing a game, that dont really want to and who are just fucking around...it's pointless for them to be in there...."

not if they are decent people and are willing to have a go and not fuck up someones game, travel to hamilton and take a look at how well it works.

what id find frustrating would be loving a game and only having four or five others interested even tho the game is at its peak with over 20 players. that's what this solution solves. you wanna goto a big lan and play what you want, you goto a big lan, 30ppl is NOT big. 8 people is small, ideal for RTS, 20-30 only works well if done in the hamlan or kinko lan style, and 80-300 or so works well with an assortment of games. more than that throw in some comps and u keep everyone entertained.

"oh, btw, what has me and dod got to do with it. i play just about every recent game and decide if i like it, then i play it, i like dod. i play dod. The only game that i WILL NOT play is BF1942., i'm sure there is game that you wont play!"

btw, that was an example of a person who likes a particular game more than he likes other games. now there are plenty of people who like to play BF1942, and plenty of people who might love BF1942 and hate whatever your current favourite game is, if everyone plays everything and no-one is immature enough to muck around cos they 'dont like the game' (we had a couple of 11y/os at the hamlan i attended and they were fine in all the games we played - im sure anyone over 11 could mimick that maturity to some extent)

And a game I wont play? I hate UT2003, I hate UT, I dont play them at all here, nor at a LAN because at both u never get more than 10 or so players at once (remembering my pitiful internet connection means i goto lans to play games), now if it was scheduled at a lan i'd be quite happy to play it, hell if i had reason to learn to play it im sure i would. The only game I wouldnt play currently is q3a. why? somethings fucked and it wont run - i'd love to play it, if i could.


"for one. he is the main person (along with others, i know) that, when bored, will sit there and play single player games... and no. not to get a "feel" for it. how can this possibly be "social" i mean really."

he does that because the same games are being played over and over at the majority of lans (can you say counterstrike?) and all the others only have 5-10 players, which in most games made for multiplayer these days is too few to enjoy - while all the gamers are off playing the same game they've played since 2000 or earlier.

"think about it. is it REALLY feesable to host a 30 person lan, at a public venu. and when one of the organisers get bored everyone goes home?. what if sks got bored @ morb. would he send everyone home... no... (i hope not ;)) that would be utterly selfish at a paying event, if it happend. i would be asking for my money back. i want to pay for what i get."

I don't think he was serious... umm der.

and what if he had some sort of medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke or a fit of epilepsy or his limbs fell off (yer yer unlikely i know) and it had to be closed early, would u have the ignorance to ask for your money back in that situation, forcing the organiser to pay for it himself?

on hindsight that last paragraph doesnt even belong there lol, ignore that.

but your idea of a good lan needs to be rethought.

all the things you list can be had for nothing on ur nice fast internet connection, any game you want, and plenty of files to leech. why come to lans if all u r gonna do is make everyone elses time suck by not going along with the plan - if someone organises a lan and goes to the effort of planning set times for games and you choose to attend, you damn well goto the effort to stick to that. If you're worried about being kicked out, dont come - im sure fletch doesnt want ur bitching for the 30 mins - 1 hour we play bf1942 for because you're too stubborn to jump in and have a burl while u wait for the next game.

LANs are supposed to be fun, LANs are supposed to be social

if everyone plays the same game(s) all the time - you guys generally DOD/CS major time killer, for LOTD it's MOHAA/spearhead, and for CD it's UT/UT2003 then you get all these little groups and no-body gains any more out of the lan than if they attended a small purpose lan for each game, u could split the network in 3 and all it would effect would be the leechers (who you dont want until gaming is done anyway)

DJwiz would be good for the music too if he were willing, he only seems to goto lans to experience the aura haha



also, grim -

"It's not too bad of an idea, but should only be played fairly quietly so it can't be heard with headphones on..."

or as at bdi, just loud enough that those without noise cancelling headphones can JUST hear it barely (not enough to be intrusive)

"Also, 1 game server is not going to be enough. Everybody doesn't like all games. We should just do the usual 'put up a few game servers and play what you want'."

with 30 people - why on earth would you do that - everyone plays every game, u get full games continually, eventually everyone gets to play the game they want to play the most, and everyone gets to play their favourite game with some new faces and perhaps some people that havent before liked the game or havent tried it much find they like it. - there is no point to splitting up a 30 person lan or you may as well go alright u 10 go home and have a lan there, u 10 go to another home and have a lan there, u 10 stay here and we'll play something else

"A fileserver wouldn't be very usful...it's best to just let people leech off each other...unless the fileserver is going to contain a few games and patches, thats about all its useful for."

the games and patches, sorted in order of what timeslot they are in, so those without enough space or without the games can install say the next two or three games in time for the gameplay to begin?

"DHCP will be needed for sure. "

:)

"mr Delta", i'm not singling out you, but your attitude seems general of the people around your age group in this town's lanning circles (no offense intended to anyone, i don't mean it that way) and it is what causes lan after lan to pale into insignificance, the only lans i find worth recalling have been either immensly huge - s22, bdi, or extremely well planned and everyone playing the same games - hamlan, to an extent the kinkolan i played, and unique ones, such as jarrods 'tafelan' where I first played multiplayer games, and in the progress, CS5.2 introducing me to the world of network gaming in Jan 2000.

(not forgetting of course the morb lans which i hold in highest respect as best organised and getting better every time, but so far only morb 1 has stood out to me as a fun place to play games - because everyone at the lan was playing counterstrike, the one game - at the time it was popular. if only it'd just die - people are starting to get really sick of it (i feel for beefy and others) because now it takes a majority of players and for many yields no fun.)

If u goto a lan to play only the games you really like, goto a bigger lan, organise a small one with your friends, or go home and use the internet. if you goto a medium lan stick to the mission plan - if the organiser says time slots you play time slots, or else see above, go home, small lan, or mega lan.

Just because you and 10 others want to play one game more than any other, doesnt mean the 4 guys in the corner who love such and such a game should be forced to either play on their own or play your game, they should be given as much right to play their game with a full compliment of players as the others. The exception being RTS which IMO should stay at small or mega lans only, medium lans dont have the person support for 2-8 player games that last hours and hours because u end up with half the lan playing one big game of cs, a few playing RTS, and a few leeching, and theres no point then having had that many people at a lan at once.

everyone helping everyone? what happy horse shit is that, help the person next to you, that way you aren't gonna be nagged by them while you're trying to frag someone across the room.

computers crash, but people should turn up to lans with a working machine, we aint there to fix computers. if the computer crashes at the lan, and people are willing to help, then they should - if not then the person who owns the machine can fix it in their own time and should let the others go on playing - its generally not someone elses problem if ur computer dies in the ass (and if it is, use theirs while they fix urs :P)

everybody playing games
yes
everybody playing the same games
as long as you ignore the few stubborn individuals who are too self centered to have a go
having fun
it works, obviously you're combining the internet with lans a little too closely, better double check and make sure you haven't blurred the lines.

people get bored in game people stuff round... it happens often it cant be prevented, but in that case the admins would expect the players to drop out of the game, and go chat to someone else who isn't playing for the remainder of that game time - the moment they drop out and play something else (remember sol @ dennington lan one, when everyone was playing DOD for a little - counterstrike up, dod loses 70% of its players and the dod game is ruined, all the dod players crack the shits cos they already played cs with all the cs players and some inconsiderate fuck went and started a server (no offense sol, i think i had a go at you at the time anyway :P).)

if the game empties and there are heaps of people milling around (say 60% or more of the lan attendees, then the game should be ended and the next started.) if people have nothing better to do they may well find that they learn to like a game they previously only thought they hated.

the perfect lan isn't attainable, not many things perfect are, especially at a lan where peoples opinions of this game and that are different, the only perfect lan would be when everyone was a clone of everyone else, and then even the games would be impossible because of the skill levels being identical :P But with the right recipe you can come close to making a LAN enjoyable for everyone, NOT just the CS kiddies, or the MOH crew, or the UT fanatics, or the bizzarrely-named DM chainsaw murderer game made in 1992 and recently re-released with an equally bizzarre name people... ok so i made that last one up, but you get the idea. horses for courses, people will differ in what they like and dont like, but the common courtesy of playing everyone elses favourite game for a period of only an hour or so isn't that hard to acheive.

in short, "why would you play a game you dont enjoy?" because someone else will play a game they dont enjoy so you can have some fun when your turn comes. It doesn't take the fun out of it, it maximises the fun capability of LANs of such magnitude.

oops missed one - "Now days i would garrentue that someone only likes ONE game, and no one else @ at a decent size LAN. therefore there is always someone to play with....." since that makes no sense i'll disregard that in the hope that when you learn to speak english you will come back and form understandable sentences for me to read... perhaps i should learn some obscure language so I can understand "damo-ish"

-=SileNceR=-

ps - apologies if i repeat myself, i find it easy to write as i think of things without checking to see if i've said it, and in this case i feel i probably have already said some things a few times and am repeating myself... so yeah, if i repeat myself, i'm sorry :)

19-02-2003, 12:37 AM
Silencer SHUT THE FUCK UP

1/2 the shit u are complaining about is the SHIT U DO EVERY LAN.

3 thing piss me off.
1) People who say I'll Help Out at a lan an do fuck all
2)ppl who complain that no ones playing the same game.
3)People Who PLAY SINGLE PLAYER GAMES or leech ALL FUCKING LAN. If u wanna leech GO TO A FUCKING LEECH FEST. Not a gamers LAN.

At a LAN i play what i think is fun. If u want to play a particual Game organise a [insert game name] LAN. Games like Operation Flashpoint are best played at such lans cause of the high level of knowlege an complexity of the game.

To admins of LANs i have this advice. Get servers up at the start an ppl playing straight away or they will start leeching an there will be no decent size game (MorB 4 was an exsample of this)

Oh an BTW

Blacklord's Dennington LAN slogans

Denninton LAN 1 (Plz Don't fuck the sheep)

Dennington LAN II (w00t we got da electrity here yeasterday)

My list of games I will be playing or serving up at next LAN

Operation Flashpoint Resistance
Americas Army
Medievil Total War

19-02-2003, 12:47 AM
Just pointing out that posts are more effective when they're short and to the point. I personally stopped reading halfway down the page...

19-02-2003, 12:48 AM
please see other thread re: OFP LAN... :D

I am going to sit on the fence for this argument for now

all i can say is that the BDI music was too loud, the PA was way too loud and most people dont have noise cancelling headphones, and the reason I got mine is because i dont want a noisy PA screwing my game up like it did at BDI (also so i can't hear BL when he talks shit)

Hamlan was good yer but having been to one i cannot generalise, maybe they dont play CS every time or something I dunno, I don't care as much I just recall sittin back in the theatre watcing someone else play a PS2 or somefin coz i cbf playin wotever it was...

every lan i go to i end up fixing peoples computers (the people i done it for surely appreciated it) it comes with the territory and i never complain.

anythin else worth a reply will get one later when u stop tossing slanderous comments amongst the argument...
i would like to see other peoples views on this too..the people decide

also one other point i do agree-ish with silencer on

attending a lan, whether u pay or not, invited or not, is something provided by someone else. much like any event, rules set out by the organiser(s) should simply be accepted as the way it will be because, as it stands, it is their event and they "can do what they want" constructive criticism is something you can offer, but at the end of the day its their call whats yay and nay.

19-02-2003, 12:49 AM
Ok then,
So we will need:
A pa system for music
1 File server
1 Game server (the way i see it there should only be one server running at a time soez every one is in it)
1 mp3 playing machine (I lov Moozic)
1 DHCP server
and as many switches as possable.


A pa system for music <== Bad idea. cause idiots with NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES will turn it up.

1 FILE SERVER <=== PUT COPIES ONTO CD's an free up the network especially if there is 1 game u want to play. Burn 3 or 4 copies (with cracks an shit) it's easier to install

1 Game server <=== Changing Servers then becomes a pain in the Arse. Have 2 so one can be run up while ppl play on the other.

1 mp3 playing machine <== Use fucking winamp on ur own machine. Everyone in these forums listens to crap anyway.

1 DHCP server
and as many switches as possable. <== yay i hate setting up TCP/IP. I want to plug in an PLAY

It's advice Take it onboard.

19-02-2003, 05:08 PM
u must remeber that chopper is also organising this... not just 1 person....

19-02-2003, 05:29 PM
Good call BL.

Clinton, is it possible for you _NOT_ to try and insult somebody while replying to a thread? Damo didn't insult anybody in the process of replying, so why do you think you should?

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"mr Delta", i'm not singling out you, but your attitude seems general of the people around your age group in this town's lanning circles (no offense intended to anyone, i don't mean it that way

How then, did you mean it? The way I see that is your making a huge generalization, which is incorrect and something you cannot make, so on this point, you should just STFU.

Quote:
I don't think he was serious... umm der.
Well your mistaken then, because Fletcher is serious, as he has expressed at school a few times.

Quote:
on hindsight that last paragraph doesnt even belong there lol, ignore that.
I am ignoring that, because that paragraph is completely full of shit.

A _better_ idea would be, to at specific times, take down all servers, put the one server up with the one game, and everybody plays that, once that hour is up, everybody goes back to playing their favorite game, then another hour or so later, another game server is put up, the rest taken down, and everybody plays on that server.

There are points that I agree with, and a lot I don't.

I'm keeping my post short because of what clawcity said...not many people are going to read through this huge slab of text, so there's no point adding more and more to it.

19-02-2003, 06:11 PM
post deleted by Blacklord

If these Forums Suck Rocket then piss off I don't make u post here.

19-02-2003, 06:29 PM
BlackLord -
"1) People who say I'll Help Out at a lan an do fuck all" what happened with m4 and cable measuring?
"2)ppl who complain that no ones playing the same game." nothing wrong with that, if everyone was noone would complain about it :P
"3)People Who PLAY SINGLE PLAYER GAMES or leech ALL FUCKING LAN. If u wanna leech GO TO A FUCKING LEECH FEST. Not a gamers LAN." if all anyone plays is cs and little two-eight player games then there isn't much difference between those playing and leeching, besides, I dont recall ever seeing a LAN specifically called a gamers LAN or a leechfest, define these as the title of a LAN and hold to that I will.

"Games like Operation Flashpoint are best played at such lans cause of the high level of knowlege an complexity of the game." true, this is why you don't include them in your mission plan for the game, you leave them to free time.

sKs - "when u stop tossing slanderous comments amongst the argument" it's libel it's libel :P

"Hamlan was good yer but having been to one i cannot generalise, maybe they dont play CS every time or something I dunno, I don't care as much I just recall sittin back in the theatre watcing someone else play a PS2 or somefin coz i cbf playin wotever it was..." I remember not playing for a while also, but when the next game came on, we did - i enjoyed being there and it meant i got to talk to a few of the lanners u usually dont meet or speak to face to face

BL again, cos he came back

"PUT COPIES ONTO CD's " perhaps... sounds like an alright idea, but i still think the file server with patches is better as surely u will have ppl there who have an older un-updated ver of the game who dont want to lose their game settings by reinstalling

"1 Game server <=== Changing Servers then becomes a pain in the Arse" not if the break period I suggested comes into play

"Everyone in these forums listens to crap anyway" uhmm.... abba anyone? :rolleyes:

As to the PA it's just an idea, and frankly if the lan organisers like the idea then they can do it if they like, if not, they wont (obviously) - and i'm sure they will be willing to alter the volume to suit the players also.

Delta re chopper - i didn't realise that, and only hope an incident such as the cs in the middle of another game thing doesn't happen again.

Leigh (since we appear to be on a first names basis :P)

"Well your mistaken then, because Fletcher is serious, as he has expressed at school a few times." ok actually thinking about it I wouldn't put that past him... although in reality I doubt very much he would tell everyone to bugger off and leave if he got bored.

"on hindsight that last paragraph doesnt even belong there lol, ignore that.
I am ignoring that, because that paragraph is completely full of shit." umm maybe I should have deleted it, thanks for heeding my comment re ignoring it, lol.

"How then, did you mean it? The way I see that is your making a huge generalization, which is incorrect and something you cannot make, so on this point, you should just STFU." the people around your and delta's age seem to make up a large part of the lanning community, approcimately 50%, and as such have quite a bit of power in making and breaking a LAN. This coupled with what appears to me to be quite similar to damos approach, causes, as I said, lan after lan to be ruined by people doing exactly what i'm griping about. It is a generalisation I can make and it is, at least to some extent, correct. "STFU" and you say I can't make a point without insulting someone?

"A _better_ idea would be, to at specific times, take down all servers, put the one server up with the one game, and everybody plays that, once that hour is up, everybody goes back to playing their favorite game, then another hour or so later, another game server is put up, the rest taken down, and everybody plays on that server." BAM, that's the shit. lets use that idea, this guy's a genius.


oh and back to BL cos i forgot something,

"1/2 the shit u are complaining about is the SHIT U DO EVERY LAN." would that be the half that is caused by the other half? IE the half that means i sit there leeching instead of gaming being because there are 4 or 5 little games going?

Oh and also medievil - i think perhaps have that as part of OFP lan, it's limited to what, 8 ppl? :)

Just thoughts suggestions and opinions and the like, the insults are free ;)

GR - "is it possible for you _NOT_ to try and insult somebody" of course, but then I wouldn't be me would I :D

Damo - nothing personal, just a counter insult from the other nite ;)

19-02-2003, 06:55 PM
dam u must have a lot of time on your hands...

19-02-2003, 07:17 PM
yeah, gotta love tafe after 13 years of school :)

19-02-2003, 10:27 PM
for fuck sake stop writing dictionary size posts 2 or 3 lines tops i got books here i can read if i wana read that much...i really wana play a game of ee with someone whos half good to even if its only one or two people i know not many people get into that game due to the "lazy gamer disease" people who cant be fucked learning games like flashpoint and EE and a few others... ba

19-02-2003, 10:44 PM
OK, FFS, why is everyone dissing each other. FUCK. Do somefin better with ya time than write 1/2 hour posts. Incase ppl are unaware, Fletcher is organising the hall hire. That is all. I will b organising the switches etc.. and I will b asking skullshot 2 bring some spare cables, incase some fool doesnt have one. HOpe this is ok with u skull :D.

Just as the last Lan went ahead, there will b no competitions etc.. people can basically play whatever they want. If we can attempt to make sure people play the same game at the same time, this will make the event better, but on the other hand, no one can force ne one to do what they would like them to do. Fletcher, this Lan is not being held for YOUR entertainment only. If you get bored, thats your own problem. Just make sure u have a clean install of GTA3 and you should b set. Dont even think about telling people to leave cuz your bored. Fuck, what do u think this is. If u got a problem with that, i'll just find a new venue, and move the Lan elsewhere, and if u dont wanta come, then stay at home.

If people who have switches can post below, etc.. U know the drill, enough ppl have switches, so we should b fine. Just waiting for fletcher to talk 2 the principal about the hall hire, then we can finalise the date. Until then, no more gay posts about fuck all. Christ. If people have any suggestions as to the running of the lan, then go for it below, but if u start posting pages of bullshit, im only gona read the first line, just as with silencers post.

Later ppl.

19-02-2003, 10:47 PM
w000tah!.
/me claps Chopper & BlackLord

ps. game/file server sitting here for use if needed

19-02-2003, 10:49 PM
1 8-port switch (mabey more I'll ask at work)
1 server (for games I might have 2 if i get my finger out)
1 DHCP server

19-02-2003, 11:22 PM
"Do somefin better with ya time than write 1/2 hour posts." it's only a half hour post :P

All fletch is doing is hall hire? so that wasn't him that posted the thread?

"If we can attempt to make sure people play the same game at the same time, this will make the event better, but on the other hand, no one can force ne one to do what they would like them to do." no but you CAN however ASK that they respect the wishers of the planners of the LAN

"Fletcher, this Lan is not being held for YOUR entertainment only." you're co-organising with him and you havent already discussed this with him?

"Fuck, what do u think this is. If u got a problem with that, i'll just find a new venue, and move the Lan elsewhere, and if u dont wanta come, then stay at home. " and you're complaining about everyone cussing everyone :rolleyes:

"If people who have switches can post below, etc.." I do :)

"Until then, no more gay posts about fuck all. Christ. If people have any suggestions as to the running of the lan, then go for it below, but if u start posting pages of bullshit, im only gona read the first line, just as with silencers post. " and if you read my post you would know it wasn't about "Fuck all", and that it WAS suggestions for the running of the LAN, so instead of going ho hum i didn't read his post but im gonna assume he talked crap for 12000 characters just cos he has nothing better to do with his time. I have an opinion, I have suggestions, and i've been making them. If you wanna diss me or my posts etc, then read them first, don't go making judgements without first looking at the content of the thing.

Run ur lan how u wanna run ur lan but if u want suggestions, try reading my posts above rather than telling people to post some below... Lazy bloody.... doh there i go again

19-02-2003, 11:26 PM
for fuck sake stop writing dictionary size posts 2 or 3 lines tops i got books here i can read if i wana read that much...i really wana play a game of ee with someone whos half good to even if its only one or two people i know not many people get into that game due to the "lazy gamer disease" people who cant be fucked learning games like flashpoint and EE and a few others... ba

start a thread, hook up some EE gamers, and have a small EE lan... no point trying to get them to play EE at a big lan, when they spend their time leeching or playing other games one after the other - long games or games people percieve as long just don't work at LANs (strictly IMVHO) same reason as why things like AOE etc don't work.

A lot of ppl dont like the type of game, (FPS ppl) etc, so hence you wont find a lot willing to play, although if u take the possibility of FPS games out of the equation i'm sure ud find many willing to attend a strictly RTS only game.

19-02-2003, 11:40 PM
1. 0o0o0 get over it...
2. Chopper accualy did post 1st about the LAN. in the "next lan" thred i think it was

20-02-2003, 01:28 AM
1. 0o0o0 get over it...
2. Chopper accualy did post 1st about the LAN. in the "next lan" thred i think it was

humph.

/me goes to the corner


ignore me when I get all stubborn and arrogant like this... usually it means im about to spurt off into a period of self doubt and depression and dissapear for a week or so.... the cycle repeats itself again.

i'm a prick, ignore what i say if u want - i have stated my opinion but it is that clouded by my "being an asshole" that it probably has no actual effect on anyone anyway.

Cheerio or not so

SileNceR

20-02-2003, 12:05 PM
start a forum for ee... na id be the only one posting in it

20-02-2003, 12:57 PM
I've got an 8 port switch available & possibly one of the 24 port ciscos though normally we have enough switches and last mish lan it didn't get used.

20-02-2003, 04:37 PM
how come peeps call it a mish lan.. if anything denington is the furtherest possible place away from the actual mish

20-02-2003, 04:48 PM
maybe. but dennington is just a hole

20-02-2003, 09:55 PM
lol... dennington != mish but for the classification of a LAN it may as well be called mishlan lol

20-02-2003, 11:43 PM
oi oi no one rats on denington i got alot of good memories from back in da day drinkin round there its tip top

21-02-2003, 08:27 AM
Warnambool is so prosperous it has three Mish's. Crawley street (west), Near Kmart (East), & Dennignton.

21-02-2003, 09:05 AM
There are actually commission houses all over the bloody place, like Merrivale for instance. But I don't recall seeing any in Dennington when I lived there.

And when exactly is this LAN being held???

21-02-2003, 02:07 PM
yea the amount of comission houses in denington is like... 1 i think some people dont get that mish means comission area and not some average dole blugeing family.. hell some of you may even live in a mish house

07-03-2003, 01:35 AM
Any news on a date for this LAN??

07-03-2003, 01:04 PM
hang on I used to live in a mish house even though it was only like 18mths old and was a really sweet place that waz in merivale

07-03-2003, 01:44 PM
I spent my first couple of years in one across the road from the racecourse....ah the memories

07-03-2003, 02:45 PM
i was CONCEIVED IN THE MISH!!

08-03-2003, 05:36 AM
Ewwww, sKuLLsHoT's parents having sex :eek:

09-03-2003, 08:49 PM
five dollar...u want video?

09-03-2003, 08:53 PM
$4

10-03-2003, 05:57 PM
ill pay 6 if the lighting is good.. i cant stress that enough porn vids with crap lighting really gimme the shits.. i wana see all the plumbing.... maybe not the taps.. just the sinks

18-03-2003, 05:32 PM
well this thread is proof that all threads in this forum go to hell and that most conversations end up turning to Sex when nothing else is getting said

19-03-2003, 03:05 AM
damn u r right..

its even my fault :rolleyes:

ah well, i offered my services in an attempt to see that mishlan goes ahead, so we'llhave to pick a nice date to run it.. if all is good middle of next term sometime might be an achievable date.

05-05-2003, 01:39 PM
what the shit happened here.. get those lazy faggs back and tell em to oragnise this dam lan