MorB 7 - The Aftermath

OK, now that we've got another LAN out of the way, throw in your comments...

Personally, I had a good time. Most of the comps ran fairly well, even though there were late (I'll take blame for that. Was feeling like shit and wasn't really paying attention to what was going on). Sorry to the guys in the WC3 comp, that definitely should have been better ran.

Bit disappointed that there wasn't a decent stretch of time that didn't have some kind of comp on. I know I wanted to get a good game of Savage running, but the ONS comp ran way too late into the night, so the best I saw was an 6 player game. There was a little DC game running now and then as well, but I didn't really get much time in that either.

Leeched enough, slept enough, had good time all round.

It was good but all of the comps ran too long and there wasnt enuff time or ppl by the end of it to have many good games. And i agree wit u beefy about the savage games, I would have loved to have gotten my challange going. But everyone was either asleep or had gone home around the time that it would have been able to run after tea and all the comps had finished which ended up being around 4:00amish
But i got enuff games and movies to get me through the rest of the hoildays, and some ideas on how to finish modding my case. So all in all it was a good LAN. And as always thanx to all the admins

Meh, last morb was better.
I want to thank the admins. they did an awsome job at preparing everyting. the network ran smoothly, they were helpful with people when they needed help.

The ut ons comp was crap. Not because i didnt win.. I dont care. they ran too long, the teams sucked we had our own team and when their random u dont get to use an stradegy.

The dm ut comp was enjoyable. congrats to tommyboy.

it was hard to get our own matches setup because there was never enough time inbetween comp breaks...

no generals matches, or dc (was a small one but there was like 5 people in it) couldnt get generals to work some mismatch crap.

skullshot, any chance in adding a challenge part into the intranet site? its an awsome site. but maybe a challenge part would be nice.. so we can put up challenges and tell them to go talk to certain people about it. which seat their at and what not.

the door access this morb was quick and easy much much cleaner than last time. nice work people.

leeching was good. though not much i didnt already have :) thanks for the movie clips and a few movies :D still think the gaming matches need to be setup a bit better... thats about it..

(waits for the flames)

oh congrats to spot for winning the dvd player! and dont come back!!!! lol jk

intranet forums would be nice as DC is a bit of a pain to chat in cos ppl can be in games and miss stuff, would be nice to have for the sake of setting up challenges etc, and could be erased every lan so it's fresh for the next...

yeah, what wintah said. :)

if u sook about which games was and wasn't played. thats up to you guys to get off your bums and ask ppl to play it! ESP with the fact of challenging someone, i'm sure ppl aint that scary that u can come and talk with them.. as is siad heaps, if u wanted a server, tell me and i would have givin you one if i could.....

Other then that i thought i was pretty good. not alot of gaming was played however, everytime i stood up all i saw was white DC++ screens. sucked dick that i didn't play one bit of steam dod, but atlest i spents hours getting the server running so you guys could enjoy it! :)

It was probably more the fact that only a handfull of people had steam dod, even though i went out and bought half life the day before and spent all afternoon and night getting steam updated to offline mode, all worried that i wouldnt be able to play dod there. Then in the late sunday morning / early afternoon DoD 1.0 comes out - all that time wasted.

As for DC++ i would have finished much earlier if the bandwidths were higher than 500k, i dont know whether it was a network problem or a ploy to stop people leaching and give more bandwidth to games, but made me stay on there longer than i wished.

The ONS competition was good at the start but after playing 3 or 4 rounds it got too much and boring no matter if your winning or loosing.

Great stuff MorB, look forward to next lan and new games... HL2? Doom 3? Stalker? Should be good

DC didn't have any problems for me. I was uploading at about 10Mb/s.

i was getting around 2-5 mb/s
we asked for a game of generals but there were problems.. and then we asked to play games but no one wanted to play the same game.. so i thought meh to that.

great lan as always,

wc3 comp was fine

Even though I missed all the good comps due to a wedding (bugger) I still enjoyed the LAN. I think I only played one game though, lol. Boo Ya to haMz's Linux COD server, pity it didn't get much use. Anyway by the time I got back most of the gaming was over with, but it was still a good social outing especially with some new faces and some of the out-of-town boys showing up. Shame one of them took my DVD burner though....

And kudos to sKuLLsHoT for his efforts to permanently damage the youngsters by screening Rejected on the overhead, lol.

generals??? When was that advised!!!! And the problem was probably that the cracked & legit versions are not compatible.

WC3 => came second again!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHH :evil:

Starcraft => had 3 4~6 player games. In the last they decided to gang up on me and I still won (no axol) :twisted: ya baby...

Arrrre the UT2004 ONS comp :wink:
And WinterKnights if you couldn't pull a strategy together, no wonder you lost. I thought the teams were all fairly even. Everyone lost at lest one round.

Savage
Got challenged to a clan war (member of [>RAP<]) but the opposition cancelled
Got in 3 rounds of random teams with humans vs beasts instead. The fun :)

Even got in some COD and leeching 8)
Never got round to any TA action

And kudos to sKuLLsHoT for his efforts to permanently damage the youngsters by screening Rejected on the overhead, lol.

Is THAT what I heard when I was trying to sleep? I heard a couple things being played over the PA.. Had nfi what they were though.

Amoungst other things such as that CS movie and a singing cat which was stuck in my head for bloody hours!!!

cracked and legit versions of generals work.. i mean.. mine and johnnys was fine.his being legit

yeah, which one was rejected?, i can't remember, i remember the cat song, screw that, it was catchy but a bad catchy, and the bleeding anus thing was odd, it was good to see so many gamers just chilling out and sitting round the projector watching some funny shit, i enjoyed the lan, i turned up late, but meh, i enjoyed the time i spent, and that crapload of money i won.

i enjoyed rolling out dod, sucked that it was so late into the lan but hey, u guys were sleeping and stuff like that, but good game and good nade to sks!!

overall tho, from the looks of it you guys did a great job getting it going and it ran smooth, really smooth, i can't stress how much congrats these guys deserve in their time and effort they put in, *claps* can't wait till january so i can find an excuse for playing CS again!!

btw, i remember clearly one gy walking past us at the back and saying "I smell counterstike" when we were playin 1.6!!

Good work guys, keep it up seeya next time!

*tips off hat

Was probably me. I caught all you sad bastards playing it on video...

omg you have cs on your computer.. isnt that some sort of virus?

lmao @ cash prize

If I hear anymore network bashing! My word, you guys are going to get a... a... slap on the bum bum! For anyone having network problems, let me just say... "YOUR FAULT!" if you bring a 10mbit card to a LAN don't expect 100mbit :P The gear morb was using is VicLAN's brand new dual gb back bone gear. Everyone has 100mbit to everyone else, perfect network with no bottle necks. So if you were having problems, I suggest being less poo! (or sook at one of the admins to check your cable, or set your self to active mode and put in your IP using DC++, or, or, or, be less poo :P)

kthxbi

kenny was here...
and yes thanxzz to VicLAN our network was absolutely awesomenessnessishfull!

the movies i was showing on the projector were just random funny things that i threw up to give both myself and some of the gamers a break from gaming/leeching

since i was up from 9am sat til we finished cleanup whenever that was on sunday - it was lucky i got my fix of KITTY KAT !!

LOVED the "i'm a cat, and i can dance dance dance" clip. will forever be my theme song :P

You shoulda gone through the clips on my PC. There's over 1000 of em. ;)

im sure u want her to do something else beefy.
i watched the robin williams live show again man hes a pisser

That was directed at sks actually...

is there something you want to tell us beefy? lol jk

You shoulda gone through the clips on my PC. There's over 1000 of em. ;)

i'm pretty sure he was.

Oh, in that case... Good. :)

yeah i was harvesting the clips off DC as i played em up :)

That's ok then....

I don't know how many bloody clips I have of people playing the mario theme song though. Got 2 guys on guitar and two on piano (one's fucking nuts...)... Plus countless other clips.

I think the only thing that let this lan down was the congestion of comps. I would maybe down the number of comps by one so that there is more time for games to be played outside of the comps. Other than that.... I think it was very well thought out, and I don't really think anything was wrong with the overall layout.

But something was missing..... I think it was time to be honest. If I had more time to be playing games there, morb would have been so much better in my books!!!! The Overall performance by the admins I was particulaly happy of. If there was a problem it was fixed very quickly and to the best of there abilities (way to go admins :D !!!!!). Honestly, even though I believe this is one of the worst morbs I went to(don't take it the wrong way plz)..... I believe its back on track tho, and is on its way to being awesome again...... just free up a little more time for us to play games freely.....

Also, the problem with increasing numbers is, that there'll be more ppl to leach stuff off (I believe thats how most lanners see it anyway) which will leave even less time for gaming. This will have to be something you guys will have to consider.

The potential is there for morb, and I believe you guys are definately on the way, but time I think is the killer at the moment!!!!!

simple rule to be introduced then :D nobody sleeps and nobody leaves the building between 8pm and 6am!!

thats it, all problems solved :D
time was chewed not by the comps in general but by the ONS comp slightly yes. like i said - we expected 2 teams of 12 at most, not 3 or 4 teams of 8-10 ppl which we allowed for but soo didnt expect!

keep suggestions comin ppl, its all gunna b handy when it comes time for MorB 8 with potentially 200+ gamers to contend with we want to know everythin NOW!

With double the number of gamers, in theory there should be more left over to play the other games while any comps are running.

That being said, it's also gonna make organising and getting things running so much harder, as there's more stupid people to manage. I honestly think we need to get a bit harsher in comps. If people aren't ready by a certain time (which we will need to announce and display on the projector), then they miss out. I don't know how many times an ONS game had to wait for people to get in the servers, or how many times we were just waiting for 1 single person to get their ass in there.

Then again, with the new comp idea that's been floating around, things might be a little different. :)

indeed, time to go nazi on comp times :D
esp/ if/when the other plans go ahead :D

Suggestion: On the projector, have a countdown clock for the start time for the next comp. That way, people know EXACTLY when the next round / comp is going to start.

there already is on the ALP. which was shown on the projector.

it would be nice if everyone could arange their shares in a nice neat order haha.
no sharing games that arnt images because they hardly work. making people limit the amount they share would be nice.. and if their sharing make them have a certain amount of slots, no less. maybe have them set a reasonable speed so people arnt sitting there for ages wait for a download to finish.

the microphone is great. so lets expand and have everyone able to make announcments.
a board for people to write on.
say i want to play farcry, let me write it up. use the microphone and tell everyone to come write their name down for a game of far cry and suggest a time to play it.. otherwise let people yell out that thet want a game and to join the server now!

with the intranet.. have a games section to.. which has the games and the updates and people can visit that and they can add their user name under one of the games so people know that this person has all the updates and the full images. this would be a lot easier for people to find what they need to get a game running.

the section that says what game servers are running is nice. but it seemed incorrect. i looked for one of the servers and it was not there.. is there a way to impliment the system in showing the game servers that are actually running?

the comp needs to be earlier.. i suggest 2 hours after the doors open. and set a time for it to run.. make it run continusly till its over. that way its out of the way quickly.

waiting for people to join a server that are slow and late should be excluded.. like that guy (cant remember who) it sucks when u have to wait. guess that cant be helped though.

maybe we can deginate say and hour or 2 where its pure leeching to get those people out of the way.. that could be our break? say 2-3ish am? maybe sooner cos some losers leave before then :P
would make more room for games.

thats all from me for now.

Delta, I'm talking a big mofo countdown clock, not a little line that says comp starts at 4...

Now for Winter's little speech:

it would be nice if everyone could arange their shares in a nice neat order haha.
Easier for some than others.. I guess you'd like me to tag all my MP3s properly as well, and name them all with proper names? Most of my stuff is named properly, down to cd images.

no sharing games that arnt images because they hardly work.
Agreed. Some people do it just so they have enough shared to connect to the hub. Others are just clueless.

making people limit the amount they share would be nice.. and if their sharing make them have a certain amount of slots, no less. maybe have them set a reasonable speed so people arnt sitting there for ages wait for a download to finish.
limit the amount they share? That's stupid. Minimum number of slots is a good idea, if it's about 2. Any more and it's gonna die in a heap. I left mine uncapped speed-wise, but that didn't necessarily always go at full speed. Some people had better luck connecting than others.

the microphone is great. so lets expand and have everyone able to make announcments.
They can. Go up to Delta, ask him to say something. He loves getting on that mic.

a board for people to write on. say i want to play farcry, let me write it up. use the microphone and tell everyone to come write their name down for a game of far cry and suggest a time to play it.. otherwise let people yell out that thet want a game and to join the server now!
They can always ask for things to be put on the projector. In essence, if you can do something without making people get out of their chair, all the better. If you've got a suggested mod for the ALP, let us know.

Hey, if you're setting a time to run / play a game, then there's plenty of ways to let people know about it. Asking them to sign up isn't necessary. If they know when it is, they can join.

with the intranet.. have a games section to.. which has the games and the updates and people can visit that and they can add their user name under one of the games so people know that this person has all the updates and the full images. this would be a lot easier for people to find what they need to get a game running.
Having a system for dispensing game images isn't really a good idea, legally. Sure, everyone copies stuff anyway, but it's not something we can really set up as a system. Plus, if everyone's leeching CD images from one machine, it's gonna be nasty. How about you actually put some effort in pre-LAN and get any games you need then? I don't live down there, yet I was still able to get all the games installed and patched before the lan, thanks to delta's nice little version list he posted. That's the whole idea of it.

the section that says what game servers are running is nice. but it seemed incorrect. i looked for one of the servers and it was not there.. is there a way to impliment the system in showing the game servers that are actually running?
Very much agreed. Back in the Server Query days, things used to be great. I haven't looked at ASE or anything similar lately, but something like that would be nice. IF you can get it to support all games being played, which SQ used to. If that could happen, then people could just have it installed locally and go from there.

the comp needs to be earlier.. i suggest 2 hours after the doors open. and set a time for it to run.. make it run continusly till its over. that way its out of the way quickly.
I think 4pm is probably around the ideal time to start. It gives people plenty of time for some preliminary leeching, a couple hours to warm up, catch up with people, get games set up that they haven't already, etc... 2 hours isn't enough time to get EVERYONE in, networked, setup, and running smoothly. It probably takes 2 hours for the admins (the ones who do work, not me) to catch their breath after everything starts getting pounded.

waiting for people to join a server that are slow and late should be excluded.. like that guy (cant remember who) it sucks when u have to wait. guess that cant be helped though.
Agreed. As I said earlier, we'll have to get harder on starting times. People who are late can miss out, assuming we've given them adequate warning.

maybe we can deginate say and hour or 2 where its pure leeching to get those people out of the way.. that could be our break? say 2-3ish am? maybe sooner cos some losers leave before then :P
Not such a good idea. If EVERYONE leeches at the same time, the network will turn to shit, everything will be slower and it'll take longer. Bad idea.

There is no one way to get through to ppl. I had a guy tell me we should have had cold drinks for sale. Delta mentioned that we have cold drinks for sale like 5-6 times over the mic.

Ppl who have headphones on can't always here the mic

Not everyone used the ALP page either. The projector probably needed to be refreshed more often. Changes where made to the page but occasionally noone remembered to hit F5 on the machine that the projector was connected to.

The best way I found to find out what ppl where playing was to go for a walk and see myself. Then jump in to the server.

Worked for me too. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people that think 'I'll play Game X until I see some people playing Game Y, then I'll join that.'

There could be 20 people wanting to play Y, but without knowing what everyone else wants to play, they don't know. That's why people have to get in early, let the admins know so we can plaster it up, or organise something definite in the forums beforehand.

a board for people to write on. say i want to play farcry, let me write it up. use the microphone and tell everyone to come write their name down for a game of far cry and suggest a time to play it.. otherwise let people yell out that thet want a game and to join the server now!
They can always ask for things to be put on the projector. In essence, if you can do something without making people get out of their chair, all the better. If you've got a suggested mod for the ALP, let us know.


ALP has the game and server request functions which appear on the front page. This function was enabled and has been for the last 2 lans - it works in with the dedicated servers page which admittedly was left untouched for quite some time..

if you dont believe me, ALP is still running here if you want to check it out : http://morbmail.ath.cx/

Changes where made to the page but occasionally noone remembered to hit F5 on the machine that the projector was connected to.


The lastest version of opera could be used to fix that problem. It has an auto refresh option which i used on the ALP game times. Its a really usefull option, it can be set anywhere from refresh ever 5 seconds to ever 30 minutes. U might have to give that a try next time

yeah i know, i use opera, its had that function for ages, i thought of it but i just whinged about how IE lacked that feature instead of actually installing opera lol :D

EDIT: just installed it on that machine then ok ;)

winter minimum slots is a silly idea, i prefer to turn up the slots/grant the slots to those who request them when i'm not playing games (which in turn allows for people to actually get some decent speeds) and while gaming i set it to 1 slot only, that way my gaming experience is not effected...

I share full games installed folders because in the case of many of the games i play they CAN be copied directly and after running a registry file (conveniently located in the same folder) most that don't work usually can be made to...

Organisation is a personal thing and different people do things differently, you can't just assume that others will lay out their files in a way that suits you - this is half the fun of leeching, trying to figure out where stuff is hidden... :D

btw, the more slots shared the less bandwidth for each person, so while u say minimum slots you also whine about speeds - which is most likely the result of too many slots in the first place... catch 22?

afaik. the enjoyment from a lan comes from the gaming not the leaching.

Organisation is a personal thing and different people do things differently

to overcome this problem, we had a small lan at a mates during the week leading up, this allowed us to update our games or get them in my case, new puter and only steam dod, wtf??! but yeah, personal organisation is the key to getting up and going earlier, i remember i was the guy who used to have the recent game versions at our small ones, and i'd never be able to play games, coz i waited for people to leech it off me, i'd get into a game and find that someone was tappign me on the shoulder asking to get q3 point release or something, methinks making a shit computer and hooking that in next time, then the guys can leech off that, but then again, just as winter said, u need to have ure shares organised, they can't figure out that the iso for ut04 is in GAMES!!

anyway, methinks morb was fun, i had fun, and isn't the customer always right, so what if some people didn't like it, i had fun and thats something good. otherwise, its good to see that people are giving help as opposed to shit slinging, it doens't just help the morb admin crew, but it also helps the smaller lans in how to address different issues.

i use 2 slots all the time. i had it turned on nearly all the time.. if someone wanted another slot i granted it. but only when i wasnt gaming.

Beefy, when i said about the games page.. i mean just having a grid type thing with user names.. the games they have the the version they have.. so people can go to their name in dc, search the game and download it.. thats jus for the people who dont end up having the updates, which your right, they should have done so before the lan.

maybe print like a flyer sort of thing for each person, explaining what the night will involve explaing what people should do incase of something.. say they wanna play a game, or whatever. I know you have said all this.. but has it really gotten to the people. Some people use the morb site to register for a lan and dont bother to read the side. or use the ALP so how about a flyer? everyone will get one.. and well their obviously going to be curious about what it says. so no doubt they will read it.

if their sharing make them have a certain amount of slots, no lessThe option for this is not yet implemented on the DC hub we use so there is no way to enforce this
this would be a lot easier for people to find what they need to get a game runningOr they could look on the file server, that's what it's for after all
maybe print like a flyer sort of thing for each personA flyer containing all the relevant info was handed out at MorB 6 and people still couldn't figure out what was going on

in regard to the flyer - like JT said we handed one out at M6 and EVERYONE had one, yet i still had people asking things that were clearly spelled out on the sheet, so i gave up on that idea for M7

as for the games/gamers grid, i actually like that idea and will look into it. rather than a cross reference grid (imagine a 200 player grid!!!) i'd use categories where you can just look at lists for particular games. but definitely one i'll be looking into!


this would be a lot easier for people to find what they need to get a game runningOr they could look on the file server, that's what it's for after all

at M6 i had the files portion of ALP enabled which linked back to game updates etc on the file server that is maintained by the committed clawcity. again, it was so underused that i hadn't bothered with it for M7 (people maybe dont realise the work that goes into the intranet/comps/schedule planning prior to LAN-time??)

We need a jingle. Something for delta to sing over the PA. Something that sticks in people's heads unconsciously. Something that'll remind the bastards where everything is.

That being said, I think it'd be worth sitting down and nutting out EXACTLY what people need in a web-based system and trying to scrap something together. The ALP is reasonably good in what it does, but the interface is a little clunky in spots and could probably be better... I'll get back to the admins on that one with some ideas.

just overlay everything that was on the flyer on top of the kitty cat dance lol

could work..... and I agree with Delta..... Lans are great, not for leaching (although a little leaching is good) but mainly for gaming..... I couldn't possibly imagine going to a lan and not gaming!!!!! It might be worth getting some of the regulars from morb to test out the intranet site b4 morb, and getting there oppinions..... BETA testing :wink: !!!!!!

all the suggestions are great, but there is one simple thing that i keep noticing. 90% of them HAVE BEEN DONE, or ARE DONE. clearly they either dont work, or ppl just dont look hard enough.

serriously though. if u worried about who is playing what. most ppl around here are approchabel i'm sure. and the admins are EXTRA approachable. come and have a chat. tell us what u want, if u want ppl to play a game, SPAM dc or go talk to ppl. no point sitting there wishing to play something is there..

+ i only ever heard one person ask about game-version during the lan, and which is the point of my post before the lan. serrisouly, we cant hand everything on a plate to you, it just doesn't work that way.

and finally.
The ALP is already flogged before LAN time by sks and other admins

they may have been done. but maybe they were done in the wrong way?

the dc hub can kick people for not having the right amount of slots... i got kicked for having 2 open and it wanted 5

it never hurts to reenforce what has already been said.... it proves that more that one or two ppl are thinking the same thing. And I only brought up the test thing so that you could get a person who isn't as talented and smart as the admins that run lans!!!

People need to HELP THEMSELVES at lans. All Lans have the same problem with people wanting to play Games but not telling people/admins that they are organising one. The only lan that i ever went to without this problem was HAMLan an that was because each game was played for like 1 an a bit then we all swapped.

the dc hub can kick people for not having the right amount of slots...Taken from the Yabba DC Hub website (http://www.disconova.com/utu/acdchub)
"Min slots checking (Not implemented yet)"

weird.. maybe it wasnt yabba. cos ive been kicked for not having the right amoubt of slots..

nah u can script all that stubb in the default hub as well, u just gotta know how plus the cbf-factor

fairy nuff. obviously these guys wanted it haha.
Anywho. pre-arranged games throughout the night. Say we throw a vote for 3 to 5 games and play them for a round or 2. then we can do whatever after that...

so say we ended up with wc3, dc, ut, far cry and whatever
u would play each of them for a round.. till whoever won.. or for an hour or 2. then you would move to the next. once they are done, if people wanna play other games make them tell delta or whatever.
these dont need to be comps..

*bear with me, my point changes half way through :)*

That works to a degree, usually only with small numbers and games that can have all players in it at once.

RTS games at LANs are always a strange beast. They are something you need to organise more than anything else, as you need all players at the start to be ready. Plus people can't join in mid-game, as they can with FPS games. Also, due to the small number of players per game, it's usually something that you either dedicate a LAN to playing, or you organise to have private LANs for (the reason for Rigel... ;) ).

Truth be told, there's only so much the admins can do. If we start forcing people to play certain games at certain times, then they few that don't want to play a certain game are going to feel left out, and if the game being played is popular, chances are there won't be enough players left to play other games. I honestly think that we should just supply the servers, have maybe 1 competition, and just let the people play whatever they want. If people want to organise a big game of something, then it can be announced via mic / ALP / projector, set it for a certain time and anyone who wants to play can.

One of the main reasons the last MorB didn't have much other gaming is because most of the time it was spent on comps. We had the same problem back in one of the other MorBs, from memory.

Thinking about it, the pre-arranged games could work if it was a relaxed way of doing it. Instead of saying to people 'OK, we are now stopping this game and starting this one', just post a list of suggested games to be played at certain times. For example:

4:00 Far Cry
6:00 UT
8:00 DoD
10:00 RTS games
1:00 wappafang
3:00 tingdaddy

People can play what they want, but if they want bigger games of those listed, they know when they should be playing it. They can keep playing them if they want to, or switch over to something else. So if I turned up and wanted to play UT and RoN, then I know people would start gathering around the UT servers at that time, then it'd probably quieten off when the next game is listed, then I could RTS after that...

In the gaps, or during games I didn't want to play, I could do a bit of leeching or whatever, or organise with other people who didn't want to play those games to play something else as a group. That's where the big cross-reference list could come into it. People mark down initially what they intend on playing. So, I'd mark UT and RoN. Then, while those games aren't being played, if I'm bored I can chase up the other people that are shown not to be playing games at that time and arrange something, or see what they are actually playing...

Could just work... I assume that's what you were getting at Winter? Fair call too ;)

good idea. snr suggested the exact same thing after a ham-lan some time ago, i cant find the post atm but i'll look harder tonite.

as beefy siad. pluasable on small scales, but when number begin to increase become very hard to managa, they why i think beefys option of "suggested time frames" could work.

on the other note. what about ppl that rather competitions? ppl that are competetive in thier gaming might enjoy playing for _something_ rather then just running around. hell i know i do. but everyone knows my insane competetive nature.

Looks like we did something right with that HammyLAN way back when... :) But the gamers we dealt with were pretty stupid and happy to play anything, so it worked.

Well, we're working on that 'other' competition format, remember? We'll see if we can plug that into this..

u mean the "suggested" morb8 competition format?

yeah

HammyLAN way back when... :) But the gamers we dealt with were pretty stupid and happy to play anything, so it worked.


haha i resent that comment.. :P

Yes, you do resemble that comment..

just wondering when the MorB 7 photos will be up??

still gathering a few other pics together, also i want to get a look at the movie we have of it as well...

I'll be down either tonight or tomorrow.. Who wants the movie? You or Delta?

both!

i've got one copy.. can you share? I haven't got any more blank DVDs...

u already know my address :D

well, you two can fight for it..

DO IT!

ok, that's it. sks gets it. I'm sick of that saying from hearing it all the time at the LAN.

ROFL. /me snaps fingers

ouch... that'd hurt :P