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15-08-2003, 11:21 PM
The first of many (hopefully) RPG & RTS LAN's organised by myself. Registrations are now open, so go now and make yourself known to all.

Registration (http://www.morb.ath.cx/forums/calendar.php?id=14&day=18&month=10&year=2003&mode=display)

More details to follow in the future.

18-08-2003, 01:52 AM
yubyub.... ok i'm secretly an ewok.

18-08-2003, 04:32 AM
I'm definately looking forward to this. The idea of LANing Neverwinter Nights makes me all goose pimply :twisted:

18-08-2003, 09:35 AM
is trav really that twatty??????????
actually yes he is :?


but yay rgp and rts lan yay!!!!!!!!!

by the way sign me up as part of the setup crew dave i'm allways glad to help! 8)

i might even be door lady if u ask me nicely!

18-08-2003, 12:03 PM
is trav really that twatty??????????
actually yes he is :?You shoulda seen the look on his face then

19-08-2003, 10:10 AM
I bet it was just about priceless

What games are you guys interested in playing anyway?

19-08-2003, 07:02 PM
To let ya'll know, I am working on a couple of Diablo II comps and a Warcraft III Frozen Throne comp. Other games could include some C&C stuff, Neverwinter Nights, Starcraft, Age of Empires games and if I bow to Clawcity's demands, Dungeon Keeper. lol

The problem with RTS & RPG is that so many of the games have no dedicated server option. In some cases I have thought of ways to work around this, but I suspect that we may be asking people at some stage if they would mind the occaisional hosting of a game, ie. I dare say that someone is going to have to host any Warcraft III games.

Oh and peachy I believe the title is door bitch and I was just going to ask some computer geeks boy/girl friend if they would mind filling the position while their respective other lost themselves in LANy goodness.

19-08-2003, 07:10 PM
Dungeon Keeper baby yeah!!!

20-08-2003, 08:55 AM
Is there any other games you guys wanting to add to the list

20-08-2003, 01:48 PM
Empire Earth && Empire Earth - art of conquest

20-08-2003, 02:38 PM
Anyone ever play Warlords Battlecry 2


Its the best game. Its sort of like warcraft but you only have one hero. The hero acts sort of like a hero from neverwinter and diablo. You can choose what race the hero is, what profession, and as it goes up levels you can choose what skill you can use the points on. Its kinda oldish, it was made in 1999 I think... but its still an awsome game.

Anyone interested... if so I'll bring a couple of discs along of it.

20-08-2003, 04:11 PM
I didn't mind Warlords Battlecry 2. It made a nice conversion from the turn based Warlords games.

How are you making DII a comp? I'd be interested in two things - Running through D II with new Hardcore Characters, and running through NWN with new characters.

20-08-2003, 06:36 PM
Well Beefy you are actually not far from the mark. I'm working on two Diablo II comps at the moment and yes, one does involve running with flat hardcore characters. The other is a dueling comp.

Still ironing out some of the details but once it is done all competition details will be posted well in advance of the LAN.

Oh and Beefy, just in case you are not sure about how this LAN will go, I just signed on Peachy as a moderator hahahaaaa (evil laugh)

20-08-2003, 09:14 PM
Tholian]Oh and Beefy, just in case you are not sure about how this LAN will go, I just signed on Peachy as a moderator hahahaaaa (evil laugh)
Is that supposed to instill confidence or drive me away? :)

20-08-2003, 10:28 PM
you should run the duelling comp based on whatever hardcore chars are left after the hardcore comp...

would make a nice winnar takes all situation :)

20-08-2003, 10:34 PM
There's a thought. :) Highlander D2! There can be only one...

21-08-2003, 11:32 AM
all right and thank you my esteemed adjudici for welocoming to the fold but enuuf about that lets sort some shit out........
well so far here's the game list of what the punters wanna play
warlords battlecry 2
empire earth and the other 1
dungeon keeper 2
diablo 2 lod (did anyone else notice we seem to have a fetish with games ending in the number 2?????)
warcraft 3 frozen throne
never winter nights

but a question arises from my soul....... where does star wars galactic battleground fit into the scheme of this???
i'm also hunting down no pun intended a copy of vampire: redemption!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there anything i have missed???????

21-08-2003, 11:59 AM
I'm sure there will be more to be added to the list.

but I spose we will find out at the lan itself

21-08-2003, 02:59 PM
you should run the duelling comp based on whatever hardcore chars are left after the hardcore comp...
would make a nice winnar takes all situation :)It was my impression that the winner of the hardcore comp would be the last guy alive. In which case it would make it difficult for him to duel...
dungeon keeper 2NO NO NO!!! Dungeon Keeper the original!

21-08-2003, 04:52 PM
This whole concept of RPG/RTS LANnerage is awesome, about time someone got a LAN happening with no FPS, not that I have anything against it. I might be attending but it is cutting it EXTREMELY close to year 12 final exams so I might be sitting out. Maybe this LAN will get some more RPG/RTS happening at the next MorB too, Throff indeed to this boys!!

21-08-2003, 09:11 PM
Absolutely loving the vibe that this event has generated so far. Was hopeing it would work and it looks like it will, so thanks guys.

Here are some notes on my thoughts for 2 comps I want to run.

Diablo II L.O.D. v1.09

LAST MAN STANDS COMP

6:00pm start

Your basic last man standing competition. The amount of players will denote how many games are running ie. 6 char per game. If there is more than one game running then the last char standing in each game will fight out a duel for final supremacy.

Players will start with flat lvl 1 characters and just to make things interesting all players will tick that special little box with the word Hardcore next to it. So the player that wins will truely be..."The One"


DUELING COMP

1-2 hour(s) after L.M.S. comp is completed

After the last man stands competition is finished charcters can duke it out in the dueling competition. Any level character shall be allowed to compete, however only legit characters who possess legit items will be allowed. Hirelings will also be allowed.

It will run as a 1 v 1, best of three format with the winner staying on until defeated. Players may enter more than one character (max of three) but once a character has been played and defeated it shall not be allowed to compete again.

The winner shall be decided on which character has obtained the most ears once all competitors have been defeated.


Thats basicly how the comps will run, Im working on another compe and will post those details sorted. Once again thanks guys and keep the suggestions going.

21-08-2003, 09:20 PM
Sounds good to me man, though you may want to leave a bit more time between the 2 comps.

22-08-2003, 03:47 PM
I agree with claw city... Give the guys a break to rejuvinate and have a smoke or what not.

22-08-2003, 05:02 PM
Rejuvenation potions all round! :)

22-08-2003, 08:35 PM
Rejuvenation it is then, two hours seems like plenty of time, but i will see how it goes on the night.

22-08-2003, 10:04 PM
i gota copy of vampire the masquarade redemption, but as if day trip to warnambool to get scabed off - the multiplayer sucks anyway, not enough like counter strike, too much thinking involved....

Speaking of vampire goodness who else is eagerly awaiting the sequel

22-08-2003, 10:24 PM
It was my impression that the winner of the hardcore comp would be the last guy alive. In which case it would make it difficult for him to duel...

err... yes, lol

i didn't really contemplate the winning of the actual hardcore comp as opposed to duelling comp lol... thought perhaps it was person with highest level after certain amount of time (else it might go forever).. in which case a duel would work?

24-08-2003, 06:37 PM
I was actually more worried about the comp not going long enough. Even though you could be running as a group you will always have people that die before they reach any kind of decent level. I know a few of the people that will play though so the comp should be interesting. If it seems that the game might go on forever then I will call an end to it based the current difficulty, town and character levels, but I will be surprised if it gets to far past the "River of Flame" in normal difficulty.

24-08-2003, 06:44 PM
Here is another comp that will be run

WARCRAFT III FROZEN THRONE v1.07

tba start time

This competetion will depend on how many people register as to how it will play. An example would be;

12 players wish to compete, so three games of 4 v 4 shall be played. If there is only 11 players then two games of 4 v 4 and one game of 3 v 3 will be played.

Players will be able to pick a race of their choice and will start with a random character.

The winners of these games will go onto the final where they will play randomly picked teams and start with a random character.

No computer players shall be added in any of the games.

24-08-2003, 07:09 PM
Tholian]I was actually more worried about the comp not going long enough. Even though you could be running as a group you will always have people that die before they reach any kind of decent level.I wonder how many people will charge madly into the first boss they find only to die a horrible painful death....

I'm curious as to what characters everyone will be using so i've created a thread over yonder to discuss it:
Hardcore Comp Characters (http://www.morb.ath.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=746)

24-08-2003, 11:07 PM
Medievil Total War would be a nice game to have a war at :)

and how about we make that hardcore game hardcore "iron man" - no going back to town except to get info/ques for the next missions, and when back no shopping or healing? (cept when ur lvl'd up by the potion ho in the first act she'll heal u neway...

that way you'll not only cut the time down a little, but you also wont get item hoarders etc that get everything they find, only what they need

25-08-2003, 09:43 AM
how about no????
fuck that i agrre it would be fun sil but i can't bring myself to play a hardcore character that way!

25-08-2003, 12:47 PM
If you want to add a bit of a challenge, set the players level to 16 or something...

25-08-2003, 01:55 PM
why random teams in the final?
why you pick your what team you wish to play.

you should either make it random all the way through or let ppl pick there own race.

Same for C&C.

25-08-2003, 04:24 PM
and how about we make that hardcore game hardcore "iron man" - no going back to town except to get info/ques for the next missions, and when back no shopping or healing? (cept when ur lvl'd up by the potion ho in the first act she'll heal u neway...That'd blow. Until you get Cain you need to head back to buy identify scrolls and stuff. And if people want to horde items and fall behind that's their problem.

25-08-2003, 04:40 PM
why random teams in the final?
why you pick your what team you wish to play.

you should either make it random all the way through or let ppl pick there own race.

Same for C&C.

Players can pick their teams in the peliminary rounds so that they can play to their strengths.

Players will have random teams picked in the finals because it takes off that for mentioned edge and players will have to rely on their strengths at game play. Makes the comp a lot more interesting and the person that wins will have his win justified on his/her knowlage of the game and will stop people from saying "They only won because they know the (type of race) team back to front." & "If I didn't get stuck with the (type of race) team, I could have won."

The winner of the comp should win on general knowlage of the whole game.

You can feel free to play C&C any way you like though.

26-08-2003, 08:33 AM
fair enough, your comps your rules. even if they suck.

26-08-2003, 08:38 AM
Some races are stronger than others.

Say I pick Orcs for the first few rounds then I get lumped with Humans & get my ass cained by person that is not as good but was lucky to get a better race, Dark elves or Orcs.

Your theory only works if someone is unlucky enough not to get there favourite race all the way through.

Anyway. Sif it matters. Must be the cold are affecting my Biatchiness

26-08-2003, 11:12 AM
There's nothing wrong with humans, all the teams have their strengths and weaknesses. I think what Tholian's trying to get at is that the measure of a true W3 champion is their ability to play any team well. If a player can only win with their favoured race then they are no champion.

26-08-2003, 11:20 AM
I've beem playing Frozen throne a bit, while i've been sick. Its pretty good. fixes a lot of those niggely things that annoy you. LIke mages auto casting, peons auro repairing :)

Seems like it takes less time to gather resources too.

I agree with his point on a true champion can beat you what ever race you play. But I know I wouldn't be happy if I was in the final & got lumped with Blood Elves or somehting which I personally suck at, against a horde of Undead chomping on my butt.

26-08-2003, 12:09 PM
I agree undead are cool (though i'm slightly biased on that one) but I always set my team to random just to make things more interesting :D

26-08-2003, 12:15 PM
You guys lan wc3 much at home? I'll start doing that too.
So I am reasonably good ant any class.

26-08-2003, 10:51 PM
That'd blow. Until you get Cain you need to head back to buy identify scrolls and stuff. And if people want to horde items and fall behind that's their problem.

actually, u'll find if ID scrolls are sparse ppl wont get unidentified items not pertaining to their character type, and since they can't sell them anyway it's not like they're missing out on the cash, this means the other char types are more likely to get unique/magic stuff that suits their character and it promotes teamwork with lending an identify scroll till the person u lent it to gets another at a later stage.

i've played it "iron man" style before and it was quite good, a nice change from regular hardcore.. IMO at least.

26-08-2003, 11:01 PM
Look these are all good points that are being made (seems like a pleasant change in this forum) and the nice thing is that we have the whole night to play the games a different variety of ways.

I'd be happy to go iron man at some stage of the night and at future events it could make a great comp, but for my first LAN im keeping it simple cuz I have no idea what im doing, so sorry guys bear with me.

Tommy I see you point and fair enough, it was a case of picking the lesser of a few evils and I just went that way. But look at it this way, if your finals situation happens then challenge them to a match after and make them look like a chump by flogging them with your chosen race. I appreciate anyone that can completelymasterone specific race, but the aim of my comp is to give credit to he/she that shows level of gameplay on a general level. Gives those who are good at everything but great at nothing an equal chance.

27-08-2003, 08:37 AM
Yep thats fair enough.

27-08-2003, 02:50 PM
Umm, I was just thinking. Is it actually possible to play without going to town? You wouldn't be able to rescue Cain (can't use Cairn Stones until scroll has been looked at) for a start...

27-08-2003, 10:31 PM
there are some things you just have to goto town for, a lot of the quests etc require it... we just say that when playing like this you don't do anything in the town EXCEPT getting quests, or such... no selling or healing or anything

06-09-2003, 11:27 PM
The main thing that concerns me is people who might just hang around in town so they don't die. That'd suck and I imagine Tholian would disqualify them.

08-09-2003, 02:52 AM
Im not actually planing on entering any of the comps myself. So I will be floating around somwhere, makeing sure things run smoothly. It makes it alot easier that most people comeing are experianced LANers who will not make prats of themselves.

So far what I have are two Diablo II L.O.D. comps and a Warcraft III- Frozen Throne comp organised. I plan on running a dedicated server for Neverwinter Nights that will hopefully be running for most/all of the event. Players can feel free to come and go as they please but everyone will start with flat characters and look out for random periods of chaos as a certain someone takes over DMing duties here and there.

If there are any games that I have not thought of or that people would like to see a dedicated server for, then let me know and I will see what I can do. I have set up a base for the night and players can feel free to build upon that with variations of those games or different games entirely.

But once again I will say that there will be no first person shooters played. If you feel the need to shoot people then play an Amazon in Diablo II L.O.D. and pierce their foul hearts with arrow shafts. If you want to blow someone up then what better way then to completely decimate an entire race with mortar teams as in Warcraft III.

16-09-2003, 02:08 AM
Well LANotd has been and gone and it looks like im next on the list.

Confirmations are now open and there is still room for more punters. I have posted for 20 players thinking it a possible amount, but if I get 20 I will open it up for more players. So get in there and register for LANy goodness.

16-09-2003, 08:32 AM
Has anyone played Rise of Nations? I've been playing it a bit lately. Its pretty good. I know some ppl grabbed the iso off me at lotd. Try it 0ut. It would be god to get pl playing at rigel

16-09-2003, 10:13 AM
sifnt play EE instead

16-09-2003, 10:39 AM
Sifnt RON shite loads better. Takes less time to move up the ages, easier to play & win without having a bitch to supply you with resources.

16-09-2003, 11:03 AM
heh i'll reserve my judgement until I play it

16-09-2003, 01:17 PM
I'd have to say RON. I thoroughly enjoyed EE, but it just took far too long, and I don't like starting at certain ages. Takes the fun out.

16-09-2003, 05:31 PM
sifnt give me a copy of RON then play both!

21-09-2003, 10:35 PM
Just a friendly reminder to all that there is still room left to register and that confirmations need to be made.

On Wednesday we are going to be testing a dedicated server for Neverwinter Nights. Mainly just to see weather or not we will run the expansion for it and test the DMing capabilities.

By the end of the week I will have hopefully posted all info on game servers, version numbers and any comp details.

22-09-2003, 01:47 AM
i gotta say id much rather EE AOC over RON ron is good but theres too much organised diplomacy in it plus combat doesnt do it for me.. unlike ee were you got 5 companys supporting other crap and you got 5 diffrent wars goin on at once so intence ya get a hard on... and thats good startigy plus altought the nukes in ron are a little more realistic then EE... there a little too effective i like the idea of low threshhold nukes from the b52 and yea beefy epochs are a mother fucker.. i only play atomic modern... moderne combat is the shit and maybe the space age in AOC

26-09-2003, 01:25 PM
Yeah... but your also a noob cmdr nuke. EE is gay... it takes way to long to finish a multiplayer in that game... I used to play multiplayers of that all the time and it used to take 4 hrs to finish one game. RON is heaps better. you can have a couple of multiplayer games in the time it takes to have one in EE. I know roughly 3 people at the lan that will be plaing RON so that should be enough to get a g ame of that happening. As for ee, the people who made that game should get a royal slapping. As well as the people who enjoy playing that game :evil: .

26-09-2003, 04:00 PM
so all your comparing is the time it takes to finish a game?... you do realise there are settings... in the game menu.... that you can change believe it or not ..smaller map.. one epoc, shit like that, and id rather have an rts game take a decent amount of time, but 4 hours? a dip shit like you and your inbred mates probly played it from the stone age to the space age.. or your just really really shit which is probly what it is.. and i dont mind ron but i think it concentrates too much on diplomacy rather then combat it is nice to have a bit of diplomacy but the combat in ron hasnt had enough attention paid to it it just doesnt have the full on feel of combat and also with these sorts of games it is what turns you on...unfortunately for you General Grosnich theres no beastiality in either game.. i hear impossible creatures has an assortment of customizable animals though :wink:

26-09-2003, 08:35 PM
Does either EE or RoN have a dedicated server option? If so then I could see about running a server for them for awhile.

26-09-2003, 10:07 PM
not that i know of.. usually with these game you can have a sufficent amount of players without lag anyway on player servers

27-09-2003, 03:35 AM
Most RTS's don't have a dedicated server because they don't need one.

27-09-2003, 03:26 PM
Id like to c starcraft played a bit. kicks the ass out of war3 and games can be one quickly. not sure if there is going to enough time for all of the comps to run either.

28-09-2003, 09:17 PM
hmmm bout the pickin up ears for pvp
what if ya chars inventory is full of charms?
and anybody can pick up an ear
screenshots should be used
that way u get "whoever was pwned by smurf"
and r there gonna be any rules for pvp like item restrictions?
-smurf

28-09-2003, 11:18 PM
The time factor for the comps has always been a thought. It will mostly depend on how many players enter each comp as to how long they will take. I dont think it will be that much of a problem though with only a small number of players.

As far as the Diablo PvP goes, if you dont pick up ears then I dont think that will affect the outcome of the comp. Unless the person you beat decides to lie about it, but that should not be a problem as matches will be witnessed.

Items used by players characters must be legitimate. I don't care if your stash is full of charms or whatever, as long as they are legit.

Game versions being run for the comps are v1.09 for Diablo II L.O.D. v1.12 for Warcraft III The Frozen Throne. The version of Neverwinter Nights - Shadows of Undrentide that I'm useing for the server is 1.31. Updates, patches and cracks will be available on the DHCP server.

Final details for the Competitions will be posted on Wednesday next week.

The registrations for the LAN are now full, but feel free to put yourselves on the waiting list, there are people who still need to confirm their registrations.

28-09-2003, 11:22 PM
The max players for RIGEL I has now been opened up to 30. I dont expect to get it, but then I didn't expect to get 20 either.

29-09-2003, 05:55 PM
whats the bet this rts/rpg only lan ends up turnin into a dod-fest or somthin else.. besides rts or rpg

29-09-2003, 06:55 PM
Unlikely since it states anyone caught playing FPS games will be disconnected from the network

29-09-2003, 07:52 PM
o cool so u wouldn't mind if i used screenshots
imo its easier
-smurf

29-09-2003, 11:21 PM
Go for it Smurf. Hell im the guy that took a screenshot of me owning in MOH and used it as my desktop background for the rest of LANOTD, lol.

As for that crack about people playing D.O.D. everyone has been givin fair warning, so anyone caught doing so is just doing it to get a rise out of me and hence a prat. Rules are simple, play any FPS and find yourself outside with your puter in what will probably be a cold and rainy night. I might not be big or scary, but my LAN has something that so far no other LAN has had.....Mr Fixit!

30-09-2003, 09:23 AM
Does this mean I get to kick people out? :D

One thing that I'm worried about is the fact that the hardcore game could on on for a long, long time... I've been getting back into D2 recently with Haze, and we are playing a 16player game with the two of us, and neither of us has died yet and we are been playing on and off for about 12 hours now...

30-09-2003, 08:14 PM
Just want to get back to that post from the commander. Just because your into that gay frat shit that you do with any animal you come across in the street it doesn't mean everyone else enjoys it. but the reason the ee games take us so long is because we either are to good and thats why we take so long or we do play most of the ages. Unlike you, we are good, and that is the reason it takes so long. So if you have any more crack jokkes you find funny bring em on... I will be glad to stuff them directly up your ass when I beat you at alll the games I play you at. Oh and has anyone got the full version of homeworld 2... i just got it today and am looking to play it at the lan if anyone else is interested.... how bout you nuke??????? I know you enjoyed the first one.

30-09-2003, 10:08 PM
got it. H2 that is

30-09-2003, 10:58 PM
Do you have the crack as well???

30-09-2003, 11:17 PM
As far as the time constraints go in the Diablo II harcore comp. I have ways of makeing things alot harder, lol

01-10-2003, 09:21 AM
You're going to stick us in a room with peachy?!? That's cruel enough as it is...

01-10-2003, 02:12 PM
i used an editor to beef up hte levels of one of my diablo characters. however i didnt give it any extras, items, extra skill points, etc is my character allowed iin the deulin comp

02-10-2003, 11:10 AM
Hey... only 15 more sleeps left people :D

02-10-2003, 06:51 PM
i used an editor to beef up hte levels of one of my diablo characters. however i didnt give it any extras, items, extra skill points, etc is my character allowed iin the deulin comp

Its an interesting question. My first thought was to say no, but like you said, you gave it no extras. Also I have no way of telling a made lvl ?? character from a edited one. So while I do not encourage it at all I will allow it, however I will be wanting to see this charcter myself before it partakes in the comp.

05-10-2003, 06:31 PM
Hey.... 12 more sleeps till the lan.... woohooooo!!!!!!! :D

06-10-2003, 04:12 AM
Here are the finalised details for competitions being held over the course of the night at RIGEL I.


Diablo II L.O.D. v1.09

LAST MAN STANDING COMP

5:00pm start

Your basic last man standing competition. The amount of players will denote how many games are running ie. 6 char per game. If there is more than one game running then the last char standing in each game will fight out a duel for final supremacy.

Players will start with flat lvl 1 characters and just to make things interesting all players will tick that special little box with the word Hardcore next to it. So the player that wins will truely be..."The One"

A players character cannot kill another players character. Feel free though to create your own parties, Align characters as one party, groups of three or whatever.

It has been mentioned that there may be a problem with the amount of time this comp may take, so just to be annoying, I will be increasing the difficulty lvl of the game every hour by two.


DUELING COMP

2 hours after the L.M.S. comp is completed

After the last man stands competition is finished charcters can duke it out in the dueling competition. Any level character shall be allowed to compete, however only legit characters who possess legit items will be allowed. Hirelings will also be allowed.

It will run as a 1 v 1, best of three format with the winner staying on until defeated. Players may enter more than one character (max of three) but once a character has been played and defeated it shall not be allowed to compete again.

The winner shall be decided on which character has slain the most opponates.



WARCRAFT III FROZEN THRONE v1.12

TBA (once DII comps have been completed)

This competetion will depend on how many people register as to how it will play. An example would be;

12 players wish to compete, so three games of 4 v 4 shall be played. If there is only 11 players then two games of 4 v 4 and one game of 3 v 3 will be played. Players will be able to pick a race of their choice and will start with a random character.

The winners of these games will go onto the final where they will play randomly picked teams and start with a random character.

No computer players shall be added in any of the games and maps will be chosen by myself for eatch match.


I know ive been a slack lazy bitch in getting these rules done, but after you live with Clawcity for awhile he tends to rub off on you, lol. Sorry dude.

06-10-2003, 04:23 AM
Hey!!!

07-10-2003, 01:48 AM
I realise that there may be ongoing problems through-out the Diablo II L.O.D. Hardcore competition. Example being that even though I said in the rules that characters are not allowed to slay each other, there is always the chance that an Amazon may fire off a stray arrow, a Sorcerous lets off a random fireball or someone steps too close to an Assassins blade sheild. You may even come across item horders or people that do not stick to what you may define as fair game play.

There really is not alot I can do in these types of situations, I can not watch every screen especially if I am playing. All I can really do is look at these problems when/if they occur and deal with them accordingly. All decisions made though will be consistant and fair.

All I can really do to aviod these problems occuring is ask everyone who enters to be mindfull of others and offer suggestions such as the problem of being accidently slain by another character will not exist if you are all running in the one party.

But accidents will happen when given half the chance, although any player found exploiting rules or being an overt prat will be delt will accordingly.

07-10-2003, 09:09 AM
The only way to really deal with it is make everyone join the same party, and whoever doesn't join is open to 'accidental' damage. Otherwise, all the area effect attacks and so on are always going to splash on someone... and people could be sneaky enough to sabotage others.. *looks innocent*

07-10-2003, 01:30 PM
I was under the impression you only took damage if the player declared hostility towards you...

07-10-2003, 03:34 PM
I could be wrong.. and I think you're right.. shows how much multiplayer d2 I've played. :)

07-10-2003, 07:23 PM
with the duelin comp will there be a specific location? eg out side of town of will you be able to run or declare the area/map you want to duel. it would be hard for a necromancer to duel if specilizes in corpse explosion and there is no corpses around due to duelin outside of town. :?

07-10-2003, 07:46 PM
with the duelin comp will there be a specific location? eg out side of town of will you be able to run or declare the area/map you want to duel. it would be hard for a necromancer to duel if specilizes in corpse explosion and there is no corpses around due to duelin outside of town. :?

Locations for duels will be just outside the gate in the Rogue Encampment once it has been cleared of creatures. I agree it will be hard for a Necromancer if that character specilises in Corpse Explosion, but thats why you get up to three characters to duel with.

08-10-2003, 07:40 PM
umm.. just wondering if there was going to be a NWN competition?? :shock:

09-10-2003, 10:03 PM
No Neverwinter Comp, what I'm doing is running a dedicated server for it which will hopefully run all night. Maybe a the next LAN (if there is one, wait and see how this one goes first) a Neverwinter Nights Comp can be arranged.

11-10-2003, 07:45 PM
The confirmations have been sitting on 15 for awhile now. I understand that people still have time to confirm and may leave it to the Friday before the LAN however if there are no more than 16 confirmed by Thursday 16th then the event will be called off.

This is due to the event costs comeing out of my own pocket if no more than 16 people have confirmed their registrations. As I said, I understand that people may have to leave confirming until close to the date because of possible commitments, but im not going to run an event that's going to generate at a loss for myself.

12-10-2003, 09:14 AM
I'm pretty sure the lanners who are going to turn up would be willing to put in the extra cash to cover the lan costs.... I would just like to see how the lan turns out anyway. I'm sure we wouldn't let the lan die when its had such a positive response. How do you other lanners feel about this possibility :?:

12-10-2003, 04:33 PM
i think gros is rite, if ur 1 person short of breaking even surely the 15 other ppl are happy to pay an extra $1 or 10 :D

anywayz running at a loss is somefin i finnk comes with the territory, being friendly lan admins as we are, theres always someone or something there willing to help us out.

12-10-2003, 06:41 PM
Like paying extra for a dodgy t-shirt. :)

But sks is right, people will usually chip in if you need it, though you've got 17 confirmed now..

13-10-2003, 02:49 AM
Well with the 17 the LAN is going ahead and should it drop back below, if people don't mind, we could make it $1 increase for every person below 16. E.g. 15 = $!, 14 = $2 etc. Should not have to do that now though because there is 17, but just incase.

13-10-2003, 08:20 AM
After following the posts. Maybe some ppl are scared off by the fact it sounds like its only going to be a diablo 2 fest.

Sif I want to pay 10, 15 bucks to play diablo for 24 hrs straight.

I thought there would be a bit more variety. IE: Generals, WC3, Rise of nations, Empire Earth. Any other new games that are out there.

I could be wrong but it sounds like d2 all day & night then WC3 early sunday morning.

13-10-2003, 08:21 AM
The other reason could be yr 11, 12, uni exams are either coming up or are happening atm.

13-10-2003, 11:55 AM
well i dont intend on playing much d2... :D

sks, if morb wasn't run every time there was going to be shortfall, how many would there have been so far... any?

gamers are usually willing to throw some spare change in a hat or similar if you're running short anyway (recall morb 1 if you will)

13-10-2003, 01:03 PM
I think the only thing that makes me a bit unsure about the lan, is that the main game being played will be diablo 2. As long as there will be variety I'm sure that this lan will be a sucess, and will probably provoke more lans like these.

13-10-2003, 08:47 PM
we play games that not d2 to make it not just d2 and all well will be woo hoo :)

13-10-2003, 10:36 PM
titmouse.. hehehehehehehe

14-10-2003, 09:02 AM
sounds like a plan

15-10-2003, 02:46 PM
Anyone for Homeworld 2 and Medieval Total war ?

Just for claification

No FPS even if its a RTS play from FPS perpective ?

Not that it worries me but i did come across a couple

15-10-2003, 11:19 PM
Dungeon Keeper comes to mind.. :)

Anyone played Temple of Elemental Evil? Best D&D based RPG I've played....

17-10-2003, 10:13 AM
I'll give you a go at homeworld 2 blacklord.... I haven't been playing it much (Damn homework sucks). But I'll give it a wurrr anyway. 8)

17-10-2003, 11:38 AM
Well looking forward to the Rigel on weekend. My first one in and as much as I love playing fps and RTS games I just hope I can last a while. Hope to see some EE, Warlords Battlecry 2 and RON played..Guys at hopme been giving me some workouts with Starcraft and TA. Here's hoping for the best

17-10-2003, 03:13 PM
I reckon people should come dressed as their favourite RPG/RTS character. C'mon guys get into the spirit of Rigel I!!!!

17-10-2003, 03:58 PM
A cosplay LAN? oh hell no....

18-10-2003, 05:26 PM
"No FPS even if its a RTS play from FPS perpective ? "

things like Renegade you mean? interesting point...

30-10-2003, 02:26 PM
flahspoint is pretty much Rts anf if you make sure every one stays on third person when using their soldier then thered be no FPS

31-10-2003, 11:21 PM
So sKuLLsHoT where's the photos from Rigel I???

01-11-2003, 12:31 AM
AHHHH im back, lost the net for awhile but the curse has returned and hopefully here for awhile.

So been hearing some good stuff about the LAN and some people are keen for more. I know the Neverwinter Nights server was "avoided like the plague" but hey what can i do, my pc can't even run the game.

Someone wanted to change it and hopefully they made it better, let me know.

I think the Diablo II Hardcore comp went well though as Beefy pointed out towards the end characters just would not die. Two rounds were run and in one round no one died and in the round I played in people dropped like flies. I still think the comp is a good idea but yeah, it would have gone on forever.

The dueling comp didn't happen because there were just too few numbers, there may have been some dueling on the side but if so, I missed it.

I heard that the Warcraft III Frozen Throne comp went well though (even though I was asleep) But Mr. Fixit stepped in and all was well. Respect most high geezah. Congrats to Tommyboy for pulling off the victory, you are now a marked man!

Thanks to JT for helping set up and dreaming of packin up, came through in the end but.

Should another one be run yay or nay? If yay then I dare say I wont be running them too often, with frequent LANOTD events and the combination of MorB there doesnt seem to be much of a point running them real often, dont want to kill the vibe. But pretty much when the vibe is good I shall fork out another to the punters.

03-11-2003, 09:23 AM
I think it was great. good to see some new ppl there.
Played some differant games which was fun. I said I was only going to stay till 2, but was so fun ended up staying till 7 in the morning :P


I didn't win the WC3 Comp. We never had time for the final round, Tslayer would have owned anyway :)

03-11-2003, 01:23 PM
anyone got replays of the wc3 ft comp, i want to see what the standard of player i would be facing next lan, before i bet my teeth on a game, again.

03-11-2003, 04:05 PM
I had a great time. I even enjoyed the diablo 2 hardcore comp (An i didn't even die). Thx to those people that played HW:2 I really enjoyed that an i may run a HW 2 comp at MorB

Can't wait till the next one.

03-11-2003, 06:28 PM
Damn, sounds like i missed a good lan. I woulda come, except I had an important funeral I couldn't really miss. :(

12-11-2003, 12:07 PM
As long as you recognize that you have missed a good lan

17-11-2003, 09:08 PM
Well thinking about another LAN. The soonest feesable date looks like Feburary. I am going to go with one of two options;

1. Same venue, will need about 30 people to make it worth doing, which I think can be done. I won't be changing the price because 30 will more than cover it.

2. Do it on a smaller scale. Someones house, shed etc and charge stuff all.

Feel free to venture forth all opinions, would be great if the had something to do with the LAN though, lol.

18-11-2003, 09:16 AM
If people could be bothered travelling up to Hamilton, then we could hold one here at work. Networking / cabling / tables / layout all set up already. It's simply a walk in / walk out job. Plus there's aircon, other facilities, etc..

18-11-2003, 10:41 AM
depending on the numbers i can sugest my place for a venue.

18-11-2003, 01:23 PM
My new place wouldn't be bad either. It's got sea views and cake

19-11-2003, 03:29 AM
Holy shit, cake!!!

19-11-2003, 02:02 PM
THANXS FER THAT OFFER SKULLZ!
WE (THOL AND I) GIVE U OUR HUMBLEST GRATITUDE!

19-11-2003, 10:58 PM
Well it looks like there is no shortage of venue opertunities and thanks to all for the offer, a rough guess on the number of punters we could comfortably fit would be great to know just as a rough idea in planning.

Beefy I like the idea of haveing a LAN away from Warrnambool, laning with some new people is always good, I think if we did something like that we would have to like make a day of it. Could say pay a bit more of a price, run a bus or something for those with no car, put on a decent spread of food, if the venue was multi roomed we could set up a bit of a lounge area, put a tv, dvd and decent sound in there and people can chill, sleep, watch movies etc.

Sounds a bit extravigant I know, but its a nice thought. Let me know people, im prepared to put in a fair bit of effort into organising a more in depth event.

20-11-2003, 02:09 AM
I'm always up for a road trip. With a little car pooling we can get many people to a lan. From memory i can get about 4 people and 5 PC's in my 4x4 (once i fix a little fucing starter motor)

20-11-2003, 10:46 AM
Tholian]Beefy I like the idea of haveing a LAN away from Warrnambool, laning with some new people is always good, I think if we did something like that we would have to like make a day of it. Could say pay a bit more of a price, run a bus or something for those with no car, put on a decent spread of food, if the venue was multi roomed we could set up a bit of a lounge area, put a tv, dvd and decent sound in there and people can chill, sleep, watch movies etc.
Piece of piss to arrange. Being part of the Uni, I can easily arrange a couple TVs, couches, there's plenty of room to crash. Could even set up movies on the big screen with good sound. ;)

20-11-2003, 03:28 PM
Used to be apart of the whole uni thing as well, so great, cool etc. Well lets ask around and see if people are keen to travel or not. If is deemed that we are going to go ahead with the idea then I will drop the "no fps" rule, just to get punter numbers up. If we are going to make a day of it we may get more people if they can play whatever they like.

So are people willing to go to Hamilton for a LAN? was thinking of Feburary as a date, well after MorB but before yet another LANotd event. So we have time, but the sooner I know the more time I have to organise it.

20-11-2003, 03:39 PM
I'll be up for a trip there.

20-11-2003, 03:44 PM
Tholian]If is deemed that we are going to go ahead with the idea then I will drop the "no fps" rule, just to get punter numbers up.But that was the cool thing about Rigel I, it gave RTS and RPG a go.

20-11-2003, 08:55 PM
Well after MorB? When's the next MorB?

21-11-2003, 12:27 AM
You cant expect to be able to ask people to travelle any distance and then tell them what they can and can't play.

I heard a rumour that it may be some time in Janurary.

21-11-2003, 12:32 AM
Yes I can, it's not my LAN so whether they turn up or not isn't my concern :wink:

21-11-2003, 01:13 AM
*takes a step away from clawcity*

21-11-2003, 09:17 AM
Tholian]You cant expect to be able to ask people to travelle any distance and then tell them what they can and can't play.
There's hypocrisy for ya. :) I was gonna travel a fair distance for Rigel. Isn't that the same thing?

21-11-2003, 09:37 AM
since i dont play the games, i'll drive the bus :D

22-11-2003, 01:02 AM
only if you wear the wings, lol

22-11-2003, 02:52 PM
heh heh heh wings!

23-11-2003, 07:17 AM
I don't think you'll be allowed to borrow the wings but you can always wear the boobie headband. :)

24-11-2003, 01:01 AM
I'd be proud to have sKuLLsHoT The Magical Boobie Fairy (http://www.morb.ath.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=235&start=120) as our bus driver :wink:

24-11-2003, 09:31 AM
I think some printed T-shirts are in order.. :)

24-11-2003, 11:18 PM
LMAO. I don't have a Morb shirt but I'd definitley buy a Skullshot the Magic Boobie Fairy shirt.

25-11-2003, 12:04 AM
So a LAN and a show then guys and girls? Sorry to get back on the core topic here but does everyone or anyone want to go to hamilton, if so then I can start organising things (need a while to find breasts in skulls size)

25-11-2003, 09:10 AM
Tholian]So a LAN and a show then guys and girls? Sorry to get back on the core topic here but does everyone or anyone want to go to hamilton
I'll go. :)

25-11-2003, 11:26 AM
The moment you allow FPS it will start to take over <THE EVIL IT SPREADS>
RTS RTS RTS RTS RTS ….. :? RTS RPG RTS RPG

Me win Warcrafe3 Comp!!!!!? :shock: Ha to that.
Well not now, thanks Tommyboy. :evil:

What’s the cost most likely to be? If it to high you'll loss most of your people that way.
If I go and it’s in Hamilton, I’m going to need a ride from W’bool.

25-11-2003, 11:48 AM
Thats why where thinking of a bus Tslayer. Not a bad idea.

25-11-2003, 12:16 PM
I'll go to a HamLAN RTS session in hamilton

25-11-2003, 12:34 PM
Personally, if I had a choice, I would involve FPS games. If it's mainly an RTS / RPG lan, then I couldn't really guarantee many locals (if any) turning up, which would eliminate the whole idea of having the LAN up here, if it's just the same people from down there. The LAN scene up here at the moment is dead, so if a LAN were to happen, people would wanna get FPS games out of their system...

25-11-2003, 01:38 PM
So basically Tholian has the responsibility to organise a LAN so well that it revives the dying Hamilton LAN spirit? No pressure Tholian.

25-11-2003, 02:09 PM
thol i prob ably won't be allowed to go

unless we get pernmission for the other half

just thought i better tell u if u want mr.fixit there

25-11-2003, 02:18 PM
Mr Breakit if I recall what you did to that shield...

25-11-2003, 04:48 PM
So basically Tholian has the responsibility to organise a LAN so well that it revives the dying Hamilton LAN spirit? No pressure Tholian.
There's plenty of spirit, just no one who cbf organising it WELL. People still hold their own dodgy little ones, but no one holds bigguns with advertising n shit. Just cos I don't know of anyone who wants to play RPG / RTS games (aside from myself), don't mean they ain't around.

25-11-2003, 11:15 PM
They're hiding in small basements around Hamilton like the French Resistance

25-11-2003, 11:34 PM
Woke up, realised I didn't have anything to do but make Clawcity's life more miserable so stuff it, lets go to Hamilton.

Im going to allow for a one off inclusion of FPS at this LAN, if its going to work we are going to need numbers so I can't afford to be Mr. Picky.

Now I imagine that those who don't have cars are going to need transportation. ie. a bus. Those that need the bus can pretty much expect to pay a higher price compared to those that drive. So If you can it might be in your best interest to help cover petrol costs for a friend and go with them.


I will do my organisational best to have details and registrations up by Friday.

P.S. If your nice to me Mr. Fixit, I will see what I can do about a weekend pass.

26-11-2003, 05:59 PM
Helps always offered from myself if need be :) .... Myself and a couple of others would be interested in heading down. As long as that bus is a go ahead, or a lift is available.... Damn not having a car :evil: .

It may be an idea to let the fps have a go but make note to everyone that the lan is going to be concentrating on the rpg and rts games. For instance make the comps only for rpg/rts. What do ya reckon??????

26-11-2003, 09:24 PM
thats the best suggestion Gros.. just make all comps rts, and have no restrictions as to what can be played..

i still say go the bus idea, im sure, depending on how many ppl we needa take, that a bus wouldnt b very costly.

28-11-2003, 12:12 AM
How much does it cost to hire a bus anyways????

28-11-2003, 03:13 AM
As far as the bus cost is concerned, it will depend on the number of people needing a bus. I planned to have the registrations up by Friday, but still waiting to hear back from Beefy about weather he can organise stuff on his end.

I like the idea of makeing the comps strictly rts, nice way of keeping on track while still letting people play whatever.

28-11-2003, 09:09 AM
Gimme a date and I'll see what I can do.

30-11-2003, 11:21 PM
Well I was thinking of a date in Feburary, but is that going to be possible with uni not getting back until the end of Feb. Might have to push the date back a bit. If Feb is good to go then how about either 27th or 28th.

01-12-2003, 09:09 AM
I'll get back to ya.

02-12-2003, 03:55 PM
that would be elite... a lan on my b'day :D .... can I get my b'day bash while i'm there??????

02-12-2003, 10:51 PM
i dont think that will be any problem.

03-12-2003, 08:44 AM
Shweeett :D

03-12-2003, 11:11 AM
i am going to enquire into the hiring costs of a bus like 12 or 22 seaters from budget rental - i've been meaning to do this for quite some time - just they dont have prices online bastards!

are there any other vehicle hire companies that are around the bool?

03-12-2003, 01:28 PM
The are actually a few companies about, local yellow pages can help you there, be sure to let us know what you find out.

03-12-2003, 02:28 PM
There is Hertz at APCO but they are fairly expensive so I wouldn't bother asking them.

04-12-2003, 01:51 PM
yeah there are a few listed in the Yellow Pages...I have rung a couple and they are reasonably priced and cheaper if you provide your own driver. Good luck skulls

04-12-2003, 02:03 PM
road trip, road trip, road trip, road trip.


Can't wait

05-12-2003, 10:31 AM
You know if you read that while glancing at your avatar it's kinda life like...

07-12-2003, 11:02 PM
I like my avatar.... its kinda mesmerizing isn't it
:shock:

08-12-2003, 05:10 PM
Still waiting to hear back from Beefy about possible dates, so as yet things are a bit up in the air, in the air, in the air, in the air, in the ...... #@%&* damn avatar!!

08-12-2003, 06:07 PM
ATM, things are looking clear for any weekend in Feb.

09-12-2003, 07:53 PM
may have to consider changing avatar.... proves too distracting, cause useless, non-meaningful comments to be posted...... but its soo gooood.... must look away, must look away, cant help it... its soo beautiful

09-12-2003, 10:04 PM
I think you are just haveing flash backs to what Christina looked like before she turned into a party s#@t.

Going to have to rethink the date i had planned on. I dont think that the end of Feb is such a good choice anymore because thats when Deakin run their O'week, which includes Grungestock. Not to mention the rave that goes til all ours which I plan on attending :lol:

I has to rethinks me dates and i'lls gets backs tus yus all.

11-12-2003, 02:27 PM
What.... no bday lan :cry: ..... Oh well over that.... got any dates in mind at the moment

13-12-2003, 01:52 AM
Not really sure to be honest. With everything thats going on around that time and in both the next and previous months, it might actually be more viable to put it off. Meaning a larger LAN away from Warrnambool.

Could still do another smaller event locally dureing Feb though. I'm going to sit down with the powers that be and mull over our next move.

13-12-2003, 03:07 AM
So it'll be a conversation between Tholian, Rigel, Dave and that skinny white guy I live with?

15-12-2003, 04:36 PM
Hey... I think I might know that skinny white dude :lol: ..... thats the guy with the hair, and the arms and eyes and mouth and stuff isn't it????

15-12-2003, 04:41 PM
i may know him as well from aarons well thought out description

15-12-2003, 05:37 PM
well if any of you ever find out the name of that guy then let me know. Maybe he might know something that I dont.

15-12-2003, 05:43 PM
yeah no worries.... keepin me eye open :wink: .... Do you think firenoob knows????

16-12-2003, 05:40 PM
I got no idea

16-12-2003, 06:04 PM
Hey... isn't it funny when someone says to keep an eye open for someone... its usually because that person owes them 20 bucks.... is that why your hunting him down??? He could be in front of your computer right now.... who knows... people can be anywhere you know

19-01-2004, 01:07 AM
how many ppl are interested in turning up to da next rigel anyhows. Give Mr Rigel an idea on what to be booking for I guess.... I know 6 ppl who'll be going.

19-01-2004, 03:07 PM
Wait who owes who money?

22-01-2004, 01:47 PM
You owe me $500.... so give it now