BL bitching session

Silerncer -1) People who say I'll Help Out at a lan an do fuck all" what happened with m4 and cable measuring?

I've done more for the last 2 lans than have done for all 4.
For ur infomation i spent 2 nights sorting out cable for the last lan then there was Servers + Setting up + packing up + genral helping out with the organisation + running the dam thing.

The ONLY person that does more is Skullshot.

U ppl don't realise the organiation sKs goes though to get a Morb LAN going. LOTD + Dennington LAN have both bennifitted from MorB. Morb is not just a 1/2 yearly LAN now it's a organisation that allows ppl to more easily run lans in the southwest. Hell MorB even helps out with LANs in Ballarat
U need a server ? MorB can provide
U need cabling ? MorB can Provide
U need help with Organisation ? MorB can provide.

Like being able to post in 1 spot an reach 70% of the lanners in W'bool ???

I don't mind helping out with LANs. Me an skull can both really help if u want to run dedicated servers cause we are always fiddling with them. AA:O I spent an hour going over every setting in that. UT2003 Can do we even got a CD-key for dedicated server. Half Life - do u need to ask ? BF1942 sKs has had that covered since it came out. OFP totally covered.

It's a pity skullshots playing the moderated voice in this argument cause I laugh hard at some of the stuff he brought up.

MY suggestion to EVERYONE is that U use the knowlege that me an skull have about lans. for weeks after MorB we sit in our computer room an discuss LANs. We are constantly trying to improve MorB not just the MorB LAN but MorB the organisation. Sometimes we do sometimes we fail. But we ALWAYS try for improvment. Feel lucky. We run a small LAN but hell for orgaisation an performance we kill about 2/3's of the major LAN in Victoria.

Interesting Stat 1.5 GB of our ADSL CAP goes to MorB an we don't see a thing for it. We just do it. thats 50% of our usage gone each month. I don't mind Skull dosent mind.

welcome to the world of netspace :) 11.5gigs of GOODNESS

yeah man. sKuLLsHoT does a great job of organising these LAN's and he make no profit out of it at all. any money many goes towards some new stuff to improve the next MorB

/me rasies glass to Mr. MorB, Chears Mate.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlackLord
[B]Silerncer -1) People who say I'll Help Out at a lan an do fuck all" what happened with m4 and cable measuring?

I've done more for the last 2 lans than have done for all 4.

Did I say that I did more than you? I do what I can work permitted, remembering up until very recently you were unemployed with absolutely nothing better to do.

MorB 2 I would have done much more (in fact was criticised for not helping set up) however this was because sKs didn't even remember to get me to help set up in the morning

MorB 1 I dont recall you even being involved with the setup process? although I recall you assisting the clean up breifly

Morb 3 I can't remember, i recall trying to help but the fact you were showing jackass during our so called organisation sessions hindered things a little

Morb 4 I almost couldnt attend due to work, and I said what help I can give I will, I organised much of the networking gear switch wise.

Oh and I also recall that many of the original MorB cables I helped create, you only did the subsequent ones, so dont go claiming all rights to that either. (even if mine were 50% faulty LOL)

"The ONLY person that does more is Skullshot." I agree that he does the most work, in fact I agree that these days you probably do come second as far as how much you go, but I don't think it's something for you to say yourself - other people help out too, and i'm sure plenty come far closer to you in terms of effort than you do to the Man himself.

"U ppl don't realise the organiation sKs goes though to get a Morb LAN going." referring to everyone now? because i certainly know how much he puts into the LANs and there is no way I would have the stamina mentally and physically to keep the hours and hours of planning he puts in.

"LOTD + Dennington LAN have both bennifitted from MorB." as have many other LANs.

"Morb is not just a 1/2 yearly LAN now it's a organisation that allows ppl to more easily run lans in the southwest. Hell MorB even helps out with LANs in Ballarat
U need a server ? MorB can provide
U need cabling ? MorB can Provide
U need help with Organisation ? MorB can provide." agreed. no arguments here

"Like being able to post in 1 spot an reach 70% of the lanners in W'bool ???" I don't think that 70% of the gamers in warrnambool visit these forums ;)

"I don't mind helping out with LANs." neither do I when I can

"Me an skull can both really help if u want to run dedicated servers cause we are always fiddling with them. AA:O I spent an hour going over every setting in that. UT2003 Can do we even got a CD-key for dedicated server. Half Life - do u need to ask ? BF1942 sKs has had that covered since it came out. OFP totally covered." even if they dont always work first time this is an invaluable resource... a suggestion that the configs etc be added as guides to this site to assist other LAN organisers etc?

"It's a pity skullshots playing the moderated voice in this argument cause I laugh hard at some of the stuff he brought up." who brought up, sks?

"we ALWAYS try for improvment. Feel lucky. We run a small LAN but hell for orgaisation an performance we kill about 2/3's of the major LAN in Victoria." more than 2/3s IMHO but then I aint been to many big lans :)

"Interesting Stat 1.5 GB of our ADSL CAP goes to MorB an we don't see a thing for it. We just do it. thats 50% of our usage gone each month. I don't mind Skull dosent mind." this would be considerably less on an ISP not charging for outgoing traffic.

Now from what i've put in that post it sounds like i'm negatively biased against you or something (or at least thats how it reads in my head without actually reviewing it by reading over it) however that is not the case. I make the point that yes, you do put a helluva lot of effort into organising and assisting with MorB lans, you make it a lot easier for sKs to setup servers etc bla bla bla.

I just hope you didnt start this thread because of that one comment you quote at the start... it's funny that people still don't know how to take the things I say (with less than a grain of salt ;))

sKuLLsHoT puts the L in LAN and the effort into making them happen like many who haven't seen it wouldn't believe. Many who havent had any hand in assisting with LANs of magnitudes such as MorB would not realise just how much sKs (and many others, not JUST you and sks, dave :P) put's into these LANs and therein should be the deepest respect from all members of the LANning community for this guy as he is a god at getting these things together.

still say the best lan i've ever been 2 was my very first one... G0o0o Quake 1 and StarCraft (the 7 or 8 held at peter robertson, + a few at other ppls places in like. 97)

But MorB2 was the best big lan. seemed long as for me. + i didn't get to go to MorB1. DAMM BALI!.

Me and the gang at LOTD appreciate the work sKuLLsHoT puts into the MorB LANs and the help he gave us in preparing LANOTD and the upcoming LANOTD:Rev. It certainly would have been much more difficult holding the event if not for help from him and other LAN enthusiests such as Beefy and The Master.

CHEERS SKULLSHOT

shit, 97... at the start of 97 i was still running windows 3.11 and dos! serious, 98 was when i got into the internet/security side of things and it wasnt until 2000 when, running a beastily fast cyrix m2 300 with 32mb ram and a 4mb s3 virge i trekked to my first LAN held at TAFE by the man himself, sKs, and Hex :)

my fondest memories of LANs would probably be from a combination of that LAN, and the next decent sized LAN i went to, which I think was a phonixlan although i may be mistaken there

Silencer All i hear form U is bitching an exsuces.

BTW i spent a night re-making a shit load of ur Cables for MorB 3.

Hell 1/2 the people (Yes a FULL 1/2) who say they are gonna help out at a MorB LAN NEVER SHOW UP WHEN THEY SAY THEY WILL. Makes our organisation of the thing hard. Last LAN we worked our organisation on 4 ppl showing up. Just 4 (Me Skull An bi7ch and pete from brauer) everyone else who turned up was a bonus (Thx to all the guys who came on friday and stayed back on sunday cut the setup time an packup time in half)

I've been dissussing some stuff an in the next few weeks I intend to institutes some change an Offend a LOT of people. But it will make the transistion of MorB from a group of people to a fully fledge legal idenity ( So we can actually own shit ) a lot smoother.

TO ALL THOSE PPL HOLDING LANS

U have a choice. U can use what MorB has to offer ( exsperience, advertisement and equipment ) but U gotta give us credit when u do (So we can get more hits on the website an get our message out to more LAN'ers which mean bigger LAN's in the southwest) or u can fuck off an go it alone. Why do i say this ???

I want ppl when they hear "MorB" to think LAN

If i say "Shafted" many here will think LAN (aka Shafted LANs) I want the same thing for MorB. Ultimatley if there is a LAN held b/t Camperdown an the SA border an as far north as Horsham I want it to be an affiliated with MorB. This means that MorB is NOT just a LAN every six months but an organisation that can Help ppl get LANs going an a place where LAnners can come to find out whats going on in the area.

Me and the gang at LOTD appreciate the work sKuLLsHoT puts into the MorB LANs and the help he gave us in preparing LANOTD and the upcoming LANOTD:Rev. It certainly would have been much more difficult holding the event if not for help from him and other LAN enthusiests such as Beefy and The Master.


I got a mention! :)

But seriously guys, what's the point of bickering about all this? I got no idea what's going on, all I know is what I see in these forums, so I don't know where it all came from. But what's the point of fighting about it? MorB wants to turn into something bigger, that's a really great thing. But there's no point alienating people who have helped bring it off the ground. Who cares who's done more work, or who's been in it longer, etc... Everyone contributes their own piece to the rich tapestry of MorB, but don't bother trying to sabotage other people's threads, so to speak... (God, that sounded semi-philosophical.. better stop with that shit)

I try and help out when I can, but I admit that I've failed to turn up when I said I'd be there.. Mainly due to the fact that I've gotta travel to get there, and I'm helping bring others down, so I never usually get there on time. Partly my fault, partly the fault of the people I'm bringing... but that happens. Aside from that, there's not really much I have offered. I helped pack up a couple times after LANs, but again having to travel means I gotta bugger off earlier.

Just a few things I'd like to comment on myself though:

BL, if you want to make some big changes, would it perhaps be a good idea to start a thread (possibly even in the admin area) to be discussed in a CIVIL fashion? While I'm sure your plans are good, there's always room for improvement, which other people may be able to suggest.

Secondly, the ADSL usage thing. You didn't need to be stuck with a lame 3GB plan. Like others have suggested, using a provider like Netspace (for example, with a nice 512/128k 11.5GB cap plan, including FREE uploads) which will make things a lot easier. I understand there could be reasons you don't change providers, but it's something worth considering.

Third, for the Hamilton LANs, it doesn't really seem that there's much interest from MorB folk. You were all nice enough to come to the first main one, but as sks couldn't make it to the second, no one came. Bit of a disappointment, and makes us think twice about asking for servers and whatnot. It's a nice idea that you'd like to be able to supply stuff for people to use, but in a lot of cases it's just not a viable option for anyone outside of the Warrnambool area. There's also not much drive up here for lans, like you have down there, so it's only a half-hearted effort from people involved to do stuff, so no-one really prepares for anything. We just rock up, run games from our own machines and that's about it. If something was organised properly, and we could get some interest from out of town, then things would be fine. But I can't see that happening. Most of that probably didn't make any cohesive sense, but I had to say it.

Finally, snarfle.

when I get my license back in 6 months i'll keep my ear out for hamlans, couldnt get to the last one as I was rostered to work that weekend before i actually found out about the LAN, IMHO they are run in the best style i've experienced... plus there is something about being at a medium LAN surrounded by new faces :)


And BL, how exactly do you know I was the one who made those cables? or are you just assuming it was me...?

silencer - the nylon hanging out of the cables is a dead giveaway it was u :P

but yer they certainly weren't all yours we re-made, some just fail over time, which is why they are tested before every lan.

I'd just like to also say that what BL is sayin MorB should do, is (as it saysd in some form on the maine page), exactly what MorB has always been about, and its why i make affiliations with other groups such as MonsterLAN and LANX.

Beefy, seriously if HamLAN runs and wants/needs anything we will most likely be very capable of providing, there is always someone willing enuff

its wierd tho, it seems that if i dont go - no-one does lol, mebbe they follow me around, or is it because i organise the trip to (insert name of out-of-town lan)...

i dunno, LANX ANYONE?

Now STFU everyone, yes i organise the lan - so what, i delegate tasks to other people, like measuring cables to BL and gathering switches together (thank god for SNR!) and Wiz keeps a close eye on the network, even the guys that offer help, turn up at the ungodly time we get to MorB in the morning and help set things going.

everyone makes MorB its not just me. nuff said, be quiet now.

its wierd tho, it seems that if i dont go - no-one does lol, mebbe they follow me around, or is it because i organise the trip to (insert name of out-of-town lan)...


That's one of the points I was trying to get across. :)

Maybe you should make some sort or morb club were all the lanners are members of morb that way if any lanner within it wants to hold a lan morb will support or whatever your talkin bout and if you see new faces at lans you can approach them and ask if they would like to join ..the morb club or somthin if they feel like they belong then maybe theyl show upto more events.. especially lans that morb helps out with so they know theres a hardcore group

Rules an consistion drafts of MorB's incorperation are being written at the moment should have a copy online by next week

ok i think what he is trying to say there is that draftings of the RUles and Constitution of the MorB incorporated association is in progress at the moment, and he hopes to have a copy online soon..

if MorB becomes an incorporated association, i think it will be called something more corporate-friendly like "South-West Gaming Group"

or Victorian Gamers Association

or Warrnambool Temporary Network Group...

somefin like that...mebbe i start a thread for some suggestions? ok i'll do that...

I thought MorB was a pretty good name, plus it's already recognised in the gaming community, you know good will and all that stuff.

still say the best lan i've ever been 2 was my very first one... G0o0o Quake 1 and StarCraft (the 7 or 8 held at peter robertson


ROFL OMG i was at that one dood
i went wif brenton gillies
when dads voodoo 2 machine was brand new
heh quake 1 was awesome
-smurf

naa man. this was WAY before matt had his. u still noob :P